• Clbull@lemmy.world
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    I’m British. Don’t put the Dutch in the same group as us. Our local ‘cuisine’ truly is a crime to food.

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      No, it isn’t. I have dined exceptionally well in the UK. Our Christmas dinner is based on an a recipe from an English cook. We have a Scottish cafe/diner in town which serves excellent food.

      OK, I’ve dined horribly, too, but it is definitely not the norm - I made the mistake of ordering half a chicken in a fish and chips shop. My recommendation: Don’t repeat my mistake.

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      I’m Dutch, feel free to put us in the same group. They way we drown our potatoes in gravy absolutely is a crime against food.

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      Except it isn’t though. You have shitty fast food like the rest of the world, but we also have Michelin star restaurants too. This is just yet another excuse for people to be xenophobic to the British.

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        And there are loads of excuses already. No need to manufacture an extra one! I wonder how many Michelin star restaurants in the UK claim to serve traditional British food though.

        But genuinely, does the rest of the world dislike fish and chips, roast dinners, fried breakfasts, and pies? I know the stereotype has been around forever but I always had trouble believing that most non British people wouldn’t really like those foods.

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          My understanding is a lot of them. The majority of restaurants in the Michelin guide certaintly are British cuisine. The stars, I’m not so sure. I would say there isn’t really any reason to be xenophobic or racist to anyone.

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            Yeah of course mate, it was a joke about how (historically) we’ve given people plenty of excuses to be.

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    The Dutch and British just took home the natives of their colonies as immigrants who opened restaurants. Why try to emulate when you can get the real deal?

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    They really did did Kill millions of people to get spices and then decide they didn’t like any of them.

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    This reminds me of an old post I remember seeing where it depicted the contrast between anime food and English film food with some eggs. The anime ones were drawn with utmost care to look downright heavenly, while the English film eggs were very scraggly.

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      Genuinely I want more foreign food to be more common Like I live in the US so it’s pretty common it’s just hella expensive

      Unless you get the questionable Americanized version like taco bell and panda express

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    Fucks me up as a German, too. Globalization gave us all kinds of tasty spices, but go to any public event and you’d be convinced our greatest culinary achievement is sausage with tomato ketchup and curry powder.

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        Also wenn du mich so fragst, hätte ich gerne so Döner-style Fladenbrot mit Kümmel, Schwarzkümmel und Senfkörnern im Teig. Das dann von innen bestrichen mit etwas Erdnussmus. Dann das übliche Döner-Grünzeug rein, aber kurz scharf in einem Wok angebraten und in Soja-Sauce getaucht. Darüber frisch gemalener bunter Pfeffer und ein guter Esslöffel kaltgepresstes Rapsöl. Und dann Champignons geschnetzelt + ordentlich angebraten und mit Gyros-Gewürzen mariniert noch darin einbetten.

        Ich denke, das sollte man gut in so einem Imbisswagen zubereiten können. 🙃

        Also habe jetzt natürlich übertrieben. Keine Ahnung, ob das noch gut ist. Aber habe tatsächlich schonmal so Champignon-Geschnetzeltes in einem Fladenbrot gemacht und das war extrem geil. Seither hätte ich tatsächlich gerne mal einen vollwertigen Döner damit…

    • i mean the good stuff is not typically served at these events. I’m thinking roulade and gulash that need to simmer for multiple hours.

      Also in central Europe it is difficult to consider foods distinct to one country. Most of Polish, Czech and German cuisine overlap a lot.

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        Well, yeah, to some degree these are just very easy to prepare. To some degree, they’re just the lowest common denominator, though, which is what I’m mainly annoyed by. Lots of these simpler foods could be easily improved by adding some spices, or we could even adopt some of the many street foods in Eastern Asia, to bring in more variety…

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      British invention anyway. Curry powder from the British occupying forces in Berlin.

      Gern gesehen.

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        But “Currywurst” (curry sausage) was invented in Berlin. Indian wouldn’t use curry powder without vegetables in this way, or currypower at all (correct me if I’m wrong)

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          I’m no expert either, but yeah, I believe the lazy method of making the curry dish (Indian, Thai etc.) is to use curry paste. Our curry powder barely resembles the taste of the curry dish. In particular, it’s lacking tons of chili. 🫠

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            I was once explained that curry in the Indian sense is a rice vegetable dish with a lot of spices. To make it easier for the Brits, the powder was developed so that you don’t need all the fresh spices.

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              Curry in India is usually a side-dish served with rice or chapathi (flatbread). It contains a lot of vegetables, various herbs and spices, and optionally fish or meat. But the rice itself is not a part of the curry. Also we do use curry powder, mainly when we don’t have time or space to mix the spices properly.

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          Did you read the entire sentence “the British occupying forces in Berlin”

          British. In Berlin.

          Who do you think had lots of curry powder?

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            Curry powder is a British invention, Currywurst is German, only possible with the British but still a German invention

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    Legitimately, though: I listened to my sister tell her 4-year about “yummy spices” at Thanksgiving. The example she used was “like salt!” I was horrified.

    She also made & brought the absolute worst green bean casserole I have ever tasted in my life. It was like wet, crunchy green beans covered in French-fried onions (which came from a can, which is why it’s pretty much the only thing she got right).

    She used “no added salt/sodium” cream-of-mushroom soup, the green beans, and the canned fried onions, and added nothing else.

    I love green bean casserole, as it’s one of my favorite Thanksgiving foods. Even offered to make it for everyone this year! But she insisted that she wanted to do it.

    The only thing that was salty this Thanksgiving was me.

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        Is this some weird stereotype that I’ve been privileged to never hear before?

        Actually, don’t answer that. I just want to live in blissful ignorance.

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          Salt is just a major part of their cuisine/flavouring

          It’s not exclusive to Japan if you’re worried about stereotypes but they tend to celebrate it more than other countries that look to burn your mouth off

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    My Jamaican friend once said: “How many times do I have to tell you people flour is not a spice”.

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    Theres a lot of great dutch food! I will defend pannenkoek, stampot, oliebollen, Gouda, spekkoek, krokets, poffertjes, stroopwafel… hell, I love pickled herring.

    Dutch food is very underrated!

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      Pickled herring is Danish, spekoek is Indonesian and Gouda is bland.

      Hagelslag though, that is something I definitely miss.

      Maybe the herring is Scandinavian, but we’re not going to credit the swedes with this one, they lost that right when they started with the lingonberries.

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          It’s possible that people think of Gouda as that stuff which comes in the standardized, plastic-sealed block of rubbery cheese that most American grocery stores carry. That is bland. One might mistake it for the Monterey Jack next to it, were the labels switched.

          Don’t get me wrong, I’ll still happily eat it, but yeah, real Gouda has flavor.

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            That makes sense! I’m currently in the US and have only seen Gouda once and it tasted nothing like it, in the Netherlands there’s also many varieties of Gouda that all taste very different.

            It’s very strange seeing Dutch products on the shelves here.

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            Some people confuse mild and delicate flavours with bland, too. Young Gouda isn’t particularly strong but it’s good and still distinct.

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      Compared with English food it’s certainly first class. British gourmets only survive, because in GB are a lot of Chinese, Japonese, Greek, etc. Restaurants

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      Don’t get high off your own supply… Still true, we import and export more as we consume.

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        Isn’t Marx the one that never worked nor had any money his entire life? Yup!

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        It’s good to read Marx books, but history books are better. That way you can see examples of how socialism always fails due to human corruption.