Don’t think I need to summarize this one. This is bad news for everyone.
Basically it’s too late to stop the process. Even if we switched to renewables entirely, there will be a lag. That lag is now in a positive feedback loop.
Yeah like the science community was saying 10-15 years ago.
I remember some of the early research showing this when I was in college in the late 90s/early 00s. It’s mostly following the worst-case scenario models from the time, except 50 - 80 years ahead of schedule.
Whether you can risk it or can’t. Its time to disobey our leaders. They dont care. They’ve built protections for themselves. They plan on feeding us to the storms.
There will be no protection or escape from the environmental changes we’ll be facing, this is not something you can just wait out in a bunker.
Yep, they’ll let the climate kill all of us. Because they won’t truly be living either down there. I’m sure all the training courses for guard loyalty in the world won’t actually do shit when you’re physically down in a bunker without hopes of coming out.
They actually need us to do the shit jobs though. It’s the ancient tale of the hubris of monarchs we somehow keep electing
Yeah. Anarchy isn’t the coordination we need.
I started watching The Nanny a few days ago (have seen a lot on tv, but never everything) and in one of the first episodes they make a joke about being worried about Global Warming. It was lighthearted, not very serious. That was 1993.
If only we knew about this 50 years ago, surely we would have done something!
Big Oil: side eye Muppet meme
Fun fact: They knew since the 1950s and have been lying about it for over 70 YEARS!
Eunice Newton Foote.
Well, shit.
Not to mention the tipping point where it is no longer reversible. And even worse, the huge effect that the current has on basically the whole of the globe!
The Earth will survive and the humans will get what they deserve.
Millions of species will go down with us, some already have been relagated to extinction by our actions.
The dinosaurs got wiped out and new life flourished. The same will happen again.
Oh then in that case nbd that we take millions of species who were living in harmony with nature with us. Serves them right for . . . existing in the same 20,000 year period we did.
Life is hard and unfair
The dinosaurs got wiped out by a catastrophic meteor impact (or so we think). This is different. We are changing the climate at an accelerated pace that’s never been seen before. Species adapt to things over time. You can’t adapt if the weather isn’t stable, and things dip between super hot and super cold, or visa versa, they stay super hot or super cold. We have other examples of worlds like that in our solar systems, and they are dead worlds.
We are changing the climate at an accelerated pace that’s never been seen before.
He said, right after mentioning a catastrophic meteor impact.
The two aren’t equivalent. One of them was a one time event.
Thanks, i hate it.
There have been at least five major mass extinction events in the history of this planet. What will be after us in the future won’t look like it does right now, but right now doesn’t look anything like it did before any of those five events either.
As the saying goes, life finds a way. We just won’t be around to witness it.Permian Triassic extinction event is the one most similar to current situation.
The level of atmospheric carbon dioxide rose from around 400 ppm to 2,500 ppm with approximately 3,900 to 12,000 gigatonnes of carbon being added to the ocean-atmosphere system during this period.[22] Several other contributing factors have been proposed, including the emission of carbon dioxide from the burning of oil and coal deposits ignited by the eruptions;[27][28] emissions of methane from the gasification of methane clathrates;[29] emissions of methane by novel methanogenic microorganisms nourished by minerals dispersed in the eruptions;
How do you know that the climate is changing at a pace never before seen? Were you there to see it? There have been many mass extinctions in Earth’s history. It’ll be fine.
We know what the climate was like in the past by looking at layers in the earth, tree rings, even carbon dating can sometimes given evidence of how the composition of the atmosphere was in the past. There a lot of neat chemistry that we can use to learn what composition the atmosphere and climate had. Obviously there is some amount of error in models, but we do know.
I think there are a lot of errors in the models. Tree rings can only go back so far because most of the early trees are now coal. And trees, while they do live for a long time, don’t live forever. Fossilization is rare and I don’t know if we can get weather data from fossilized tree rings. Carbon dating is useful for organic matter up to 60,000 years ago. The other methods used to determine what the atmosphere was in the past include studying ice samples from Antarctica but that’s only good for the time Antarctica froze till now, it was tropical at some point. Since most scientist think complex life has been around for 500 million years I don’t think we can really say we know exactly what the climate was like and how it changed anywhere past a certain time period.
I think …
That’s the problem. Thinking without actual evidence to back it up = your opinion. Having an opinion is fine. But in a discussion such as this you need to come into it with factual data.
It’s the equivalent of showing up to a gun fight with a knife, believing you have a chance of winning.
earlier than initially projected
There’s that phrase again. If only someone had warned us loudly and repeatedly.
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Well, a lot of people didn’t vote because they believed the genocide/both-sides-are-the-same bullshit, and now Republicans control Congress, the Presidency, and the Supreme Court. But no worries, they are very well-known for their stewardship of the environment, so don’t fret.
The biggest shift was in older white and Latino men feeling too insecure to vote for a woman and staying home
Young people voted the same as always, despite the class war propaganda telling us otherwise
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What are you doing, pal? Maybe stop howling at strangers to do something and calmly explain what you think they should be doing… especially if you can point sincerely to your example.
You’re very noisy but not very informative. It’s not endearing.
I genuinely think we should gather anyone with assets worth more than $1 billion and public flay them. On live TV. Make the message, “if you want to be a piece of shit, we’ll treat you like one.”
See how long it takes for people to stop wanting to be billionaires.
Great. Now what about dealing with the environment?
Tbf, the average billionaire negatively impacts the environment on a level that is hard for people to comprehend. Most people are really, really bad at understanding volume and scale. Like the difference between a millionaire and a billionaire.
Example: In 2023, 50 of the world’s richest billionaires took an average of 184 private jet flights per year, emitting as much carbon as the average person would in 300 years. Elon Musk’s two private jets alone emit 5,497 tonnes of carbon dioxide per year, which is equivalent to 11 average people’s emissions in their entire lifetimes.
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You seem very scattered at the moment, and more than a little bit intellectually dishonest to boot. I hope you find your way to getting better.
👋🏻 Bye
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Slipshod, meaning the terrier did a poor job shoeing a horse
PedantaMan AWAY!!!
ferrier
Best autocorrect ever
Norhing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives
Humanity will be just another dead branch on the tree of life
Humans are pretty resilient. Adaptable to any climate, even the mess of a climate we created.
Now, I’m not saying that all 8 billion of us will survive.
What I’m saying is, the minimum viable genetic population for humans is about 2000 individuals.
