Cool but this is still just installation, right? The app will still have to be signed by apple? I will still have to pay Apple to build and sign the app? That’s the difference between android and iOS. On android you pay to put the app on play store. On iOS you pay to sign the app even if you’re developing locally. And yes, not all apps require signing but some do. You have to pay apple just to build the app and put it on your own phone.
The app will still have to be signed by apple? I will still have to pay Apple to build and sign the app?
That’s the real question that everyone wants answers to and that Apple has been avoiding.
This hasn’t been true for years…
“You can learn how to develop apps for Apple platforms for free without enrolling. With just an Apple ID, you can access Xcode, software downloads, documentation, sample code, forums, and Feedback Assistant, as well as test your apps on devices.”
https://developer.apple.com/support/compare-memberships/
Not to mention you can already side load apps using a free account as well, you just have to refresh the signing once a week. Presumably “real” side loading will remove that restriction and make the process simpler.
Are you sure? Last time I’ve checked adding Network Extension entitlement required joining apple developer program which costs $99 per year. It doesn’t say this explicitly in any of the docs but it does say you need a certificate and to get a certificate you have to join Apple Developer Program. So you have to pay $99 to install an app you’re developing on your own phone.
And how will you share an app with other people without signing it? I have no idea. Looking at the link you shared the free membership doesn’t include any form of app distribution. I think to install any app on iOS it has to be signed and to get a certificate you need to paid membership. Without paying the only thing you can do is to run some apps on your own phone. And from what you saying even this is difficult because you have to sing it every week.
It’s fine, most people still won’t sideload apps, and I am sure there will be a legal disclaimer before starting the process, so I don’t see the problem for Apple.
I am an iPhone user, and I am quite happy to not bother with sideloading, but I fully agree that there should be an option.
You say that, but that’s because you’ve never had the ability. Wait until Apple kills an app you like and pulls it, and you have the ability to have it anyways.
Do you know how many awesome apps there are that aren’t allowed in the store because Apple are serious gatekeepers?
3rd party apps used to be one of the biggest reasons people used to jailbreak their phones. iPhones are WAY too locked down.
And now you have decided that you know how I use my tech based on a few throwaway comments?
You have no clue of my setup, experience or requirenments, so don’t act all high and mighty.
Now, I have already stated since the beginning that having the option to sideload apps on iOS is a good thing, a good thing that very few people will use, but still a good thing.
We agree on the core point, why keep arguing?
And now you have decided that you know how I use my tech based on a few throwaway comments?
Quote where I “decided I know how you use tech”.
You have no clue of my setup, experience or requirenments, so don’t act all high and mighty.
I was speaking to iOS and sideloading, nothing else. Stop being hypersensitive.
- I can quote your entire post if you want me to. But let’s focus on your claim that there are awesome apps outside of the app, a claim I have never refuted, if you think I have done so, please quote me on that. No, I am well aware of the limitations on the app store’s policies, and there are only one time when I personally have been annoyed at them, when Youtube Vanced doesn’t exist.
But for the most part, I, like the vast majority of iOS users don’t really care enough about that to give a shit, I am happy that others do, because it is a useful feature, but not critical.
- You spoke as if I were against it, please quote me where I am saying it is a bad feature, and if you can’t, then this discussion is completely useless.
“I’m North Korean and I am quite happy with not having a democracy in my country.” 😂
You could have said “I don’t understand your argument” or “I disagree” instead, it would be more relevant and use less letters.
You don’t have an argument, you like not being able to do something, that’s peak brain damage.
Just don’t use it, but don’t sell something not working as something good.
My entire point of my previous comment was making fun of Apple for being mad that they can’t have a monopoly, as it clearly won’t be a big deal to them.
Nice strawman, but you can keep it to yourself.
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So… you need a Mac? Anyways…
good even though i still hate apple
The worst thing in all of this is that we have terms like ‘sideloading’. The most american way of saying installation of what you want is not allowed. I sideloaded some shelves in my house without asking apple
Apple wants to “keep you safe”… Lol
Woo. I know a lot of people don’t like Apple, but still a win if It ends up happening.
