Bit of a simple question: Some people on lemmy are still posting stuff from youtube, xitter and the like.

Have you gone full fediverse yet or how far are you?

  1. traded reddit for lemmy/kbin
  2. xitter for mastodon
  3. discord for matrix
  4. youtube for peertube

Obviously I also mean other alternatives. Which ones do you use and why?

Disclaimer: this question is me asking genuinely but also trying to make it fun by arbitrary ranking/escalating it. Not trying to say one is better than the others.

  • 👁️👄👁️@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    I’ve gone full Lemmy and Mastodon. I’m not going to pretend like Peertube is ever going to be a serious contender. None of my friends are on matrix sadly, so will probably be stuck on sms/discord for a long time.

    • haui@lemmy.giftedmc.comOP
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      1 year ago

      Two things: peertube is not doing illegal stuff which is how youtube got successful so obviously, people are gonna want to do the right thing if anyone is to have a chance against corpo media. Second, there are matrix bridges for (nearly?) all other platforms (discord, whatsapp, telegram, signal, fbmessenger, etc).

  • ntzm [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    Yes for Lemmy and Mastodon. YouTube has too much good content to skip, I feel like sites that can only rely on advertising to be profitable such as video hosting and search are going to be the hardest things to make fair.

    • haui@lemmy.giftedmc.comOP
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      1 year ago

      I agree. Youtube is very good content wise and peertube still needs work but I dont think ads are the solution. Imo, some kind of small donation would work. Needs more thought though.

      • gerryflap@feddit.nl
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        1 year ago

        A small donation like YouTube premium? I honestly can’t blame YouTube too much for their monetization strategies. Hosting video is terribly expensive, so some form of compensation will always be required, whether it’s via ads or subscription.

        • haui@lemmy.giftedmc.comOP
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          While I agree that some compensation is a good idea, youtubes strategies are nothing but monopolist trash.

          Take a large youtuber with 2000 videos. Each one being 20 minutes. That is 1 GB max per video. So 2 tb. With a decent connection we‘re talking 50 bucks for the server per month.

          I don’t think you understand how much crap these companies are feeding you.

  • TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    Simply put, I prefer the freedom of access to more information.

    Longer explanation.

    • Still have a reddit around to access the “NSFW” labelled posts (all are not porn) and quarantined subreddits (like r/Russia).
    • Have Discord and WhatsApp so I do not get cut off society. Yes, cutting yourself off is a speedrun to becoming deranged and conspiratorial, as it prevents challenging your mindset against society and prevents keeping a basic level of tab on current trends.
    • YouTube is used through NewPipe, Invidious and ytdlp.
    • Have an Amazon account for the rare occasion to buy stuff otherwise hard to get IRL.

    No Google, no Apple, no Facebook/Instagram, no Snapchat, no Huawei/Samsung/OEM accounts, none of the other services. I practice what I preach as a serious privacy advocate, and keep things practical.

    • haui@lemmy.giftedmc.comOP
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      1 year ago

      Sounds pretty good. The reddit thing is kind of relatable as well.

      But you can bridge nearly all messenger app to matrix while losening the corpo grip further.

  • misophist@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Shit, man, if I went full fedi, I’d have even less to contribute than I already do. We’ve gotta have some external sources of news and knowledge.

    I have traded reddit for lemmy and just closed my Meta and Xitter accounts and I’m already feeling a disconnect from society. I’ve been subscribing to new youtube channels and setting up RSS feeds to make up for the lack of connection to current events.

    • haui@lemmy.giftedmc.comOP
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      1 year ago

      Damn. Relatable though.

      Remember that you can bridge matrix with discord, whatsapp, telegram, signal and others to unify your communication on IM/Chat

      Otherwise, you could try mastodon. Its cool if you liked old twitter. I do kinda but lemmy is more my cup of tea. Also, feel free to contribute. We need people who bring relevant news to non corpo land.

      • misophist@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        Yes, thank you. I saw you mention bridging matrix to other services in another comment. I’m definitely intrigued and will investigate that. As for Mastodon, I’ve been wanting to find the time to spin up my own server for that one. I’ll definitely be getting deeper into the fediverse, but I also need outside sources of news, preferably not curated by antagonistic algorithms like Facebook.

        • haui@lemmy.giftedmc.comOP
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          News is kind of important, depending on your neurologic configuration. I must limit my news input as to not panic (world stands in flames and such). There are a ton of news sources on mastodon if you are willing to check for them.

          On another note: i like to look at allsides.com (i think?) if I want to see balanced news. Otherwise I mostly get updates from lemmy memes. :D

    • haui@lemmy.giftedmc.comOP
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      1 year ago

      No, sepia search sucks a lot in my opinion. We need to work on that. But if you have web dev experience, feel free to help with that. :) and you‘re totally correct with the app as well.

        • haui@lemmy.giftedmc.comOP
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          1 year ago

          I‘m not sure if I understand you correctly.

          I know there is gitlab.com, the commercial site and then there is the open source gitlab you can self host, right?

          Working on the code and being a contributor to big open source projects is quite the thing for your cv. I don’t see how a „normal“ open source project could do anything for you except look great on your cv. Because thats the point. Open source is not someone who has to be thankful to you. It is like working on the church in your small town. People work together on it or donate to make it possible.

          The „i only give if i get back“ is kind of the reason we‘re in megacorp dystopian hellscape rn.

            • haui@lemmy.giftedmc.comOP
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              1 year ago

              I can absolutely understand your frustration, I do. But it has to do with a completely different thing.

              Being discriminated against for your degree from a school not deemed „worthy“ and employers not caring about your resumes is cruel and unfair but nothing open source can help you with.

              Imo, you‘re pursuing this wrong. Its not „pour all your efforts into open source and you‘ll be successful“ but „occasionally help out if you can to bolster your cv“.

              What you are describing is a singular focus that can only lead to burnout and breakdown. It’s not your fault you dont fit their criteria but you need to understand that it’s not anyones fault in particular either.

              What you can do though is talk to an HR professional to go over your cv with you and help rewrite it so its more straightforward.

              I hope this helps.

  • Lettuce eat lettuce@lemmy.ml
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    1. Lemmy 95%. I use Reddit for tech troubleshooting help sometimes but that’s basically it, and I removed my account.
    2. Never used Twitter. I have a Mastodon account but rarely use it. It’s just not a content format that I’m very interested in.
    3. Sadly I use Discord still. Matrix is fine, but nearly all my friends use Discord for gaming and related stuff, so I can’t get rid of it without losing basically all my gaming friends and servers.
    4. Still use YT all the time, but only through apps like NewPipe, FreeTube, and GrayJay. I haven’t signed into YT for well over a year now.

    Slowly but surely I’m getting rid of the corpo’s grip on my life.

    • haui@lemmy.giftedmc.comOP
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      Congrats! I appreciate every soul we can rip from the corpo claws. 3. There are matrix bridges that can puppet your account. Pretty cool. Though I need to figure out how to use them. Found out this week. 4. Check out peertube. Especially sepiasearch.org. It’s not perfect and you need to accept that they dont have an algorithm so you need to sort by newest or be very specific in your search terms. Trying to get them to add sort by likes, watch numbers or comment numbers. Lets see how that goes.

      • Lettuce eat lettuce@lemmy.ml
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        I’ve heard of bridges but never tried them, I’ll look into them more.

        Peertube is pretty cool, just doesn’t have all the creators I watch currently. I do still watch some content on there though.

  • Ergifruit [he/they]@lemmygrad.ml
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    i haven’t used Reddit since the big migration, and quit Xitter way before then. i still use YouTube a lot, but use NewPipe instead of any app or webpage. can’t stand Discord either way, but use it for a couple MMO guilds i’m in. it sucks that the shitposting scene on Masto isn’t as big as Xitter, or maybe i’m not looking in the right places. (i know jorts.horse has some good posts on their local, but i don’t wanna move from my instance.)

    • haui@lemmy.giftedmc.comOP
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      Understandable. But tbf I didnt get xitter so I dont expect to fully get masto. I‘m still happy its there and am impressed that the fediverse is working the way it does.

  • not_amm@beehaw.org
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    I only enter to reddit to check information I can’t find in other places or because of communities there. I mostly enter for KDE reports and Stellaris lol

    I have a Twitter account because my friend are there and they’ve abandoned Facebook almost completely, but I enter one in a month or so. I’ve been using Mastodon daily because I found a lot of people that also have my interests and hobbies, even in my language.

    I only enter to Discord for casual gaming with friends, like one or two times a month.

    And I’ve been trying to use PeerTube more, but a lot of content creators I like are still on YouTube, and PeerTube doesn’t have an official app yet. I’m currently using Piped and NewPipe for watching videos (I use the YT app only when I want to support some creators).

  • Bebo@literature.cafe
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    Never used xshitter or discord. Now using lemmy and Mastodon. Still using youtube (through newpipe).

  • sbv@sh.itjust.works
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    I was solely Reddit before the API debacle, now I’m solely Lemmy. There’s not a lot of content here, but here I am.

    I tried Mastodon after the Twitter buyout. It has all the downsides of Twitter (short posts, people constantly axe grinding, reply guys) without the upsides (content creators that I want to interact with, humour accounts). I dropped Mastodon after a couple of months.

  • A bit meta, but Is there a unified article anyone can point me to that discusses all the different fediverse video options (IIRC peertube is not the only one) with a overview of how their usage differs from youtube?

    I’ve found peertube to be interesting ever since it was new, but have had very little luck finding anything I wanted on it when I’ve tried using it.

    • haui@lemmy.giftedmc.comOP
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      Yes, same problem here. Peertube is not really there yet but I sadly have no knowledge of peertube alternatives so far. One is crypto which I find kinda useless. Other than that no idea.

  • GrappleHat@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago
    1. Yes
    2. Yes
    3. N/A (never used Discord)
    4. I post to PeerTube, but YouTube still has all of the content so that’s where I go to watch things (via NewPipe & FreeTube though)
    • haui@lemmy.giftedmc.comOP
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      Only way against monopolies has always been legislature and thats notoriously slow.

      What everyone can do is try something new (like peertube) every now and then. It definitely still needs work though.

  • Killercat103@infosec.pub
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    Yes for all except youtube. I use frontends there. LBRY when feasible and there’s not a lot of content creators on PeerTube at least we got “The Linux Experiment”. PeerTube needs a monetization model imo (benefiting content creators and instance hosters). I wouldn’t mind paying a low fee for watching content for instance.

    • haui@lemmy.giftedmc.comOP
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      What we need is more people discussing peertube and things like monetization. It has promise (and there are creators on there) but the discoverability sucks. You‘re correct, it needs a lot of work.