• tjhart85@kbin.social
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    8
    ·
    10 months ago

    I mean, their use of ‘THEN’ rather than ‘THAN’ indicates that they’ll soon adopt the socialist agenda, so there’s still hope!

  • Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    10 months ago

    The core values of libertarianism: (god I wish I saved the original reddit comment, oh well I’ll paraphrase)

    “Yes it’s fascist pseudoscience with no basis in reality, however it’s still a useful theory so I’m going to continue to believe it”

        • Narrrz@kbin.social
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          10 months ago

          it took me a long time to realise that just because it has the word liberty (almost) in it, doesn’t mean it’s a left-wing idea.

        • meteorswarm@beehaw.org
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          10 months ago

          Left libertarianism was first… But nowadays it only exists to “well actually” people with, at least in the US.

          • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            3
            ·
            10 months ago

            Yeah. In Poland libertatrianism started around 1980 with a pretty fun episode when Janusz Korwin-Mikke went to the famous opening strike of solidarność in the Gdańsk Shipyard and preached to them the virtues of capitalism and free market. Shocked workers listened to the nonsense, concluded he has to be a militia provocateur (he really wasn’t) and locked him in the shed.

            Currently, polish libertarians have such overlap with monarchists and neonazis they are even for years in a single political party - Konfederacja.

  • Socsa@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    10 months ago

    Marxist Leninists when they haven’t ignored 150 years of contemporary political science for sixteen microseconds

      • Socsa@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        10 months ago

        Mostly the parts where autocracy doesn’t liberate the workers. Even temporarily.

        • twelve20two @slrpnk.net
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          0
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          10 months ago

          Every time I start to listen and learn from people more left than I am, they get to the part about how after revolution there’s probably going to be a period of autocratic rule that should then dissolve by the will of the people. Except none of them talk about plans to actually facilitate the transfer of power, or better yet, prove Lenin wrong by not going thru a period of more authoritarianism.

          • Socsa@sh.itjust.works
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            0
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            10 months ago

            Right, the massive gap in Marxist theory is, and has always been, workable statecraft.

          • mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            0
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            10 months ago

            And “communism has never been tried” is such a stupid word game.

            They tried to try. What happened, fellas? How’d it go?

            • twelve20two @slrpnk.net
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              10 months ago

              If anything, communism has been tried, but it’s never been achieved. A stateless, classless, currencyless society still sounds frickin awesome… But that’s not we’ve had :(