• RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ca
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    1 year ago

    Honestly … they’ve pulled a lot of dumb shit that makes me think it’s within the realm of possibility.

    Just look at how things happened with “Microsoft accounts” since Windows 7…i refuse to use a Microsoft account because there’s no way in hell I’m giving them my contact info, but also, it’s a total clusterfuck actually managing the damn thing.

    Windows 8 suggested using a Microsoft account.

    Windows 10 setup a Microsoft account by default. In later subversions, you can only get around it by cutting the internet connection.

    Windows 11 refuses to setup at all without an internet connection; instead , it requires you to perform a hidden hacky workaround by opening cmd accessible only by keyboard shortcut, running a specific command to enable offline setup, then rebooting to finally complete it.

    You really don’t think they’re stupid enough to push ahead with this cloud dogshit?

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      I’ve set up multiple Windows 11 machines for work with no internet connection, and zero need to use a command line. There’s a create local account prompt on the account set-up page you can just click, and set up an offline account.

      Why do people keep lying about this? It’s the fourth time today I’ve seen someone parrot that lie about Windows 11.

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        People aren’t lying about it. When windows 11 first dropped this literally what you had to do. They may have back pedaled since then, but there are bunch of threads all over reddit about getting around using a microsoft account on windows 11.

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          Then people missed the local account button. I’ve installed Win 11 on 5 machines or so with no internet, and never once had to use a command prompt, or any funny business.

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            Installing Windows 11 on pc’s is part of my job, and I assure you, with the current version downloaded from Microsoft directly, you need to use a command prompt, or create a custom install USB stick with Rufus, to get around the requirement of creating an MS account.

            There used to be a local account button in the first version when 11 came out, then it only showed up when you had no internet, now it doesn’t show up at all anymore.

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              I did it about a month ago, you can still find it without the command prompt. The computers are lab computers and don’t connect to the internet at all, and not once have I not had a local account option, and I’ve never entered the command prompt.

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        Maybe it only affects non enterprise editions? I assure you, I looked everywhere for an “offline account” option, it did not exist.

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          IIRC it doesn’t matter what version you have, but you need to select “English (World)” when installing, instead of “English (United States)”. After doing that you can see a button to create a local user, instead of a MS account user.

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          Maybe non enterprise. I only pirate the enterprise version and setting cloud account is actually a chore.

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        This is what the Microsoft system requirements page for Windows 11 says

        Windows 11 Pro for personal use and Windows 11 Home require internet connectivity and a Microsoft account during initial device set-up.

        https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/windows-11-specifications

        I guess you were building machines with a Windows Enterprise license. This would explain why you had the option to setup an offline account.

        Steps to setup a local account on Windows 11 Home https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/install-windows-11-without-microsoft-account