• syd@lemy.lol
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    11 months ago

    I’m from a country that people wants to immigrate away. Even I do sometimes.

    But at the same time I am disturbed by some actions of the minority of the immigrants who come to my country. I am leaning to be an anti-immigrant and because of that I feel hypocritical and xenophobic.

    Sometimes I think it is cruel to be against immigrants because people do not choose their place of birth and their family, just like me.

    I’m just not sure what is right, and this loop bothers me.

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      For me everything is based on how they get there and how they conduct themselves.

      I have been an immigrant to several countries and I still am, but

      I had all of the proper paperwork,

      I didn’t sneak across any borders illegally,

      I didn’t overstay my visas,

      I didn’t pay some guy on a boat to bring me there,

      I didn’t commit any crimes that are worse than jaywalking,

      I didn’t get clumped together with other people from my country and try to impose my values on the citizens of the country I was in,

      I didn’t do any under the table work,

      I paid all of my taxes.

      These are the thing that I expect from others as well.

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        11 months ago

        That’s a lot of words for “I can’t (won’t?) see past my own privilege and have no compassion for people who don’t have the same options I do.”

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          11 months ago

          Then too bad, I don’t have an option to fly into space, yet you won’t see me trying to glue myself to the next rocket that SpaceX launches.

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        11 months ago

        After having gone through the process of trying to help an Indian trans person find a job in my country in order to allow them to get here legally and having found the requirements being draconic, I don’t care about anyone illegally moving to a country as long as they behave respectfully, which they most usually do because conflicts where the police gets involved are more likely to get them deported. Do I want them to pay taxes? Sure, but the extent to which they’re able to pay taxes depends on the country deciding to regularize their status.

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          11 months ago

          Rules are rules and if you don’t follow them, the country doesn’t want you.

          It’s a different conversation when you talk about the consequences of such policies, but that’s what the country decided and those are the rules.

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            11 months ago

            A bit tangential, but there are a lot of cases when the country doesn’t want you, especially if you listen to the opinion of the officials. They are quick to judge one to be too poor, too old, too stupid, too smart, too demanding, too questioning their decisions, etc.