the one thing linux really hasnt been made on par with winblows yet is the dreadful amount of options for android simulation -the most popular choice seems to be Waydroid, but its such an unneeded hassle to set up at all -genymotion is just slow -and than you have things like android x86 which entirely defeat the point of an emulator

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    installing some random kernel that has the modules waydroid needs watching what gpu you have, which changes the instructions a little and even than its pure luck if waydroid even manages to use these binders

    id call that a hassle

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      Waydroid will work out of box if the kernel has binder or binderfs enabled, which I believe ubuntu based, pop, fedora all have it OOB, on arch, you have linux-zen in the main repo, this covers the large majority of linux installations, I would recommend asking your kernel packagers for your distro to enable binder/fs. at this point, I would classify that as a distro issue.

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        zen doesnt work with endeavouros at all, never loaded (tried it less than an hour ago) and you either need to use a tiling wm, or gnome/kde neither of which i would do willingly

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          Zen works fine in endeavor for me last I checked, but then again I haven’t checked for a few mkneths I don’t recommend using our derivatives anyways.

          on Wayland supported compositor “works” (hyprland and wayfire seem to have some issues). I personally use waydroid via cage ontop of x11. but a lot of people use weston. Ive been meaning to test cosmic but haven’t gotten around to it.

          EDIT: I haven’t seen any other users talking about issues using zen kernel on the telegram either.

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            not unusual that you claim it works for everyone but me, its neither the first nor the last time

            you are merely supporting what i said that it barely works for anything but tiling vms and some few select DEs, if you can even call wayfire that and i would very much like to avoid tilingvms at all costs, id like to use something more, well, usable

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              how so? People rarely have issues outside of some janky endeavor related bugs. hyprland’s issues also effect other applications like wine,

              it works on nearly every wayland compositor I have tested, labwc, and enlightenment are included. no idea where you get the impression that it only works on tiling wms.

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                I dont? Like i said, mainly tiling AND a select view graphical enviroments,

                Gnome i find entirely unusable,

                and enlightement just takes apples infuriating design choices,

                And those, for me, are quite the limited selections to make it work

                Edit: if it where to workwith a for me much more to use de like cinnamon or xfce, than id be more inclined to properly dive into it

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                  again, it will work on pretty much any wayland environment, if you need it to work on x11, it can work there too, just use a nested compositor like cage. I have personally verified that you can use waydroid via cage on top of xfce.

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                    I have no idea what you just said, nested compositor? Cage?,

                    But thats myoriginal point,

                    This makes it defacto unusable for people who dont want a hackerman solution, or jumping through hoops you have to research

                    Imagine telling that to a total newbie now who just wants their apps on linux like nox or bluestacks do

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      Last time I checked there’s an AUR package that just handles the modules through DKMS.

      Most normal distro have support for this built in, if your distro doesn’t, propose support to your distro maintainers and maybe offer up the necessary patches and support so your distro doesn’t fall behind.

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        before waydroid, there was indeed anbox, and it worked even less cause i never got it to install in the first place lol

        • That’s strange, the kernel modules were the only parts of the Anbox installation that wasn’t fool-proof when I used it. Everything from registering .desktop files to building the Android system image is automated. Maybe give it another go if it’s been a while since you last checked?