They say that he who creates AGI will control the entire world. I wouldn’t want America to dominate earth with their misaligned AI.
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Nah.
CIA bot
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And they committed dozens of genocides, whereas China committed none. And they rape children in ICE camps. And they have done foreign interventions in 100+ countries. And they banned abortion countrywide. And they have the world’s largest prisoner count.
And yet you hate China more. That looks like CIA bot behaviour.
Oh and I almost forgot, USA wants to fight till the last Ukrainian is dead, and they are funding and cheering Palestinian genocide right now. Last year they committed a genocide in Somalia. Before that, Yemen carpet bombing. That list is too long.
Yeah, you are a CIA bot.
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Reason: Genocide denialWe do in fact deny genocides that are made up bullshit, yes. Copypasta time.
The US’s “Uyghur genocide” (“cultural” or otherwise) disinformation campaign has already been debunked several times over.
- The Xinjiang Genocide Allegations Are Unjustified
- The Uyghur Human Rights Project is a product of the National Endowment for Democracy, which is the American government’s main regime change NGO.
- Uyghur genocide allegations
- US-Funded Uyghur Activists Train as Soldiers of Empire
- A Reddit AMA Claiming To Be A Uyghur Quickly Exposes A CIA Asset Slandering China
- The blueprint of regime change operations
We see here for example the evolution of public opinion in regards to China. In 2019, the ‘Uyghur genocide’ was broken by the media (Buzzfeed, of all outlets). In this story, we saw the machine I described up until now move in real time. Suddenly, newspapers, TV, websites were all flooded with stories about the ‘genocide’, all day, every day. People whom we’d never heard of before were brought in as experts — Adrian Zenz, to name just one; a man who does not even speak a word of Chinese.
Organizations were suddenly becoming very active and important. The World Uyghur Congress, a very serious-sounding NGO, is actually an NED Front operating out of Germany […]. From their official website, they declare themselves to be the sole legitimate representative of all Uyghurs — presumably not having asked Uyghurs in Xinjiang what they thought about that.
The WUC also has ties to the Grey Wolves, a fascist paramilitary group in Turkey, through the father of their founder, Isa Yusuf Alptekin.
Documents came out from NGOs to further legitimize the media reporting. This is how a report from the very professional-sounding China Human Rights Defenders (CHRD) came to exist. They claimed ‘up to 1.3 million’ Uyghurs were imprisoned in camps. What they didn’t say was how they got this number: they interviewed a total of 10 people from rural Xinjiang and asked them to estimate how many people might have been taken away. They then extrapolated the guesstimates they got and arrived at the 1.3 million figure.
Sanctions were enacted against China — Xinjiang cotton for example had trouble finding buyers after Western companies were pressured into boycotting it. Instead of helping fight against the purported genocide, this act actually made life more difficult for the people of Xinjiang who depend on this trade for their livelihood (as we all do depend on our skills to make a livelihood).
Any attempt China made to defend itself was met with more suspicion. They invited a UN delegation which was blocked by the US. The delegation eventually made it there, but three years later. The Arab League also visited Xinjiang and actually commended China on their policies — aimed at reducing terrorism through education and social integration, not through bombing like we tend to do in the West.
I should add that bayarea’s Xinjiang/Uyghur masterlist video is amazing. It is on Hopper the Marxist channel.
I don’t know what those are, but do you mean this video? [REUPLOAD READ DESCRIPTION] American DEBUNKS All Major Western Propaganda on Uyghurs and Xinjiang
Yes. Bayarea was doxxed, but he was the best, even above Hakim. He was mod for r/sino and r/communism I think back then.
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[REUPLOAD READ DESCRIPTION] American DEBUNKS All Major Western Propaganda on Uyghurs and Xinjiang
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whereas China committed none
That is… a very bold statement there.
It’s bold of the US to fund & organize terrorist attacks in Xinjiang and then fabricate a genocide narrative around it https://lemmy.ml/comment/10145782
China doesn’t plunder, invade, or bomb like America does. China prefers to build and cooperate with other countries. Win-Win relationships are China’s thing instead of zero-sum games like America.
The relationship they had with the country I grew up in was not like that, it was more like pay off corrupt politicians, so China can economically exploit it. Same with Russia. What you’re saying is just the Chinese party line, the equivalent of the “US only ever brings democracy” BS. They are both BS, of course, they both serve their own interests.
The relationship they had with the country I grew up in was not like that, it was more like pay off corrupt politicians, so China can economically exploit it.
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There is a difference between an imperialist state like the US and an anti-imperialist — and until recently imperialized — state like China.
The US has over 750 overseas military bases around the world, and is building more to further encircle China. Meanwhile China has one anti-piracy base in Djibouti.
Why do you hate them less than the CPC?
- List of Atrocities committed by US authorities
- A Detailed Chronological List of US Interventions, Invasions, Destabilzations, and Assistance to Oppressive Regimes (ending in 2002)
- Shock therapy (economics)
- The blueprint of regime change operations How regime change happens in the 21st century with your consent
- Are We The Baddies?
- Michael Parenti: Africa is Rich
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Michael Parenti: Africa is Rich
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Are you implicitly admitting their critiques are 100% correct? Because I read your entire comment with a “you are correct, but…”
BTW this denialism could work for any oppressive regime. Swap “CPC” (the politically correct way to say it) with “Nazi” or their politically correct preferred acronym, “NSDAP”.
Personally, I don’t think fascists get to decide what we call them. It’s the CCP and the Nazis to me. Always will be.
Are you implicitly admitting their critiques are 100% correct?
I am not.
They are actively genociding people and don’t believe in freedom.
They are doing no such thing. I’ve already covered these in my other comments in this post.
Not really interested in seeing another wall of links to further links. Authoritarianism is bad.
You say you don’t like authoritarianism and that China is authoritarian, but you haven’t defined what authoritarianism is or why you don’t like it or why China is it. You prefer the US’s dictatorship of the bourgeoisie (which research shows to be an oligarchy and hardly democratic at all) over China’s dictatorship of the proletariat, which practices democratic centralism.
Domenico Losurdo, 2004: Towards a Critique of the Category of Totalitarianism
A disadvantage that China has over the USA is a larger list of things not to talk about and greater consequences from the government if the AI does this.
How does the artificial intelligence race work? I know certain aspects but feel like I don’t know it all.
If anyone doing an arms race wins at AGI literally everyone gets mulched, so I hope nobody who is, does.
