• PriorityMotif@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    It is a punishment in the form of public humiliation, taking your autonomy, and dehumanizing you. People will automatically assume you’ve done something wrong if you’re in handcuffs.

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      If you feel humiliated because you have been placed in handcuffs, That’s really just a personal issue. How is it a form of public humiliation? It’s a safety precaution. Anyone who doesn’t understand that safety comes first should be the ones feeling humiliated.

      I myself have never once felt dehumanized, nor humiliated being placed in handcuffs. Yeah people will assume you have done wrong, that sucks, but people will really quickly change their minds when you aren’t put head first into the back of a cop car. Personally I would feel 100% more humiliated if an officer looked at me, and thought he didn’t need to cuff me :/

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          These people don’t understand that they are arguing against their own self interest.

          The state is justified for acting on fake calls… Sucks to suck peasants.

          Sure buddy, there is no way this system would be abused 🤡

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          I don’t mind being called a bootlicker. Police have saved my life before, and they’ve saved the lives of people I deeply care about. I have also seen policemen, who have helped peoplle out get attacked. I genuinely hope you are never put in a poosition where police have to save your life, But if they do one day, I hope you’ll change your mind.

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            I’ve been held at gun point three times in my life.

            Every time I was not doing anything illegal or even suspicious. I am white, not that that should make a difference, but we all know it does. EDIT: to be clear, I’m saying cops are racist, and unjustly target minorities.

            Each of those three times the person holding the gun was a power tripping asshole cop.

            I have been in several dangerous situations where a cop happened by, and just kept on going.

            I already live in a world where the police will not be there for me when I need them, and they solely present a danger with no benefit.

            You want to see people that are truly guided by a desire to help people? Go to a fire station or a hospital. Cops are not heroes, just assholes that want power over others.

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              Some are yes, but the overall majority are not. A lot of this comes down to demographic location.

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                When they don’t self report the ones that are bad, they become bad.

                How is that concept difficult for you?

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                  no way! sherlock, are you going to tell me that water exists next? holy you people watch too many movies. I don’t know if you live inner city in some crap us state, or some slum in some third world country but no fucking duh.

                  Even in the states, cops get reported all the time, the vast majority of times I hear of when cops do get reported and no real disciplinary action is performed, is almost always because it’s some crappy city where the police literally can’t find anyone to replace them. This is why things like transparency in the process are needed. But lets pretend for a second that most cops in the world are these corrupt maniacs that hollywood likes to make them out to be.

                  3 really bloody easy steps literally any crappy US state or really any state/country whatever in general could take right now would completely resolve this issue.

                  • Make bodycam footage of incidents publicly accessible only redacting necessary footage by way of destructive blur and blur only. This will keep the privacy of folk in while still making sure that each and every officer can be held responsible for their actions.
                  • Make a brief “internal investigation” status publicly available when one occurs, and make all information admissible in court. When you pair this with incident footage from publicly available bodycams. This both protects innocent officers by way of making it abundantly clear that a case is moot, but also prevents internal corruption by making it easy for effected parties to hold corrupt officials responsible via court.
                  • increase funding for police in an open manor, all expenses should roughly detailed and publicly available, so they can accountably increase spending on things like de-escalation training, non lethal subjugation training whether this be grappling arts, tasers which aren’t completely useless, whatever it doesn’t matter. Just give them more options and better training.

                  But no. we can’t do this. Because guess what, politicians, democrats and republicans alike for US folk are all greedy assholes who benefit from division. Everyone want’s to scream defund the police, or treat the police as some overarching messiahs and either get rid of them wholly, or let them act with impunity. It wouldn’t even cost that much money to do the first two points which are the most important ones.