• treefrog@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    1 year ago

    There’s withdrawal but of the four drugs i have been physically addicted to (caffeine, weed, nicotine, and SSRIs) it’s the only one I can cold turkey in under a week and feel fine.

    • Burstar@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      Caffeine isn’t addictive. Your body acclimates to long term usage, and you will experience some withdrawal symptoms but this is classified as a dependency and not an addiction as it does not trigger the reward mechanisms like weed and or methamphetamine does. It’s an important distinction and is why coffee and tea are often served at [Addiction] Anonymous meetings.

      • treefrog@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        It’s both. Nicotine is also both. Note how people at AA still often smoke. And how much coffee they’ll pound even after dinner.

        The only drug I misclassified is SSRIs. Which don’t trigger the dopamine reward system.

        And my comment was in light of OP and common language usage. People say heroin addiction and they mean heroin dependency. It doesn’t help anyone to be pedantic about these two words. And I say that as someone who has taken college level classes on pharmacology and alcohol and drug dependence and is very aware of the technical differences used professionally.

      • OceanSoap@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        1 year ago

        It’s not so bad if you pop a Tylenol the first couple of days, just to get you through the caffeine migraine phase.

        • treefrog@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          0
          ·
          1 year ago

          Depends on how bad your caffeine addiction is. I tried cold turkey when I had a tooth pulled when I was drinking a pot of coffee a day.

          A week in bed on Vicodin and Percocet, didn’t touch that headache and it didn’t improve or go away until I drank coffee.

          Oddly, I ate a large bag of mushrooms and got tazed by the cops one night. Ended up in the psych ward. Was able to cold turkey the coffee after that. Not sure if it was the mushrooms or the juice from the tazer.

          • OceanSoap@lemmy.ml
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            0
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            1 year ago

            Yeah, I’m not sure if Vicodin or perc would help a migraine, different pain killers help in different ways. I think opiods are the least helpful when it comes to migraines, if I remember correctly.

              • treefrog@lemm.ee
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                0
                ·
                1 year ago

                but we’re not talking about migraines.

                we’re talking about caffeine withdrawal headaches.

                neither of which are 💯 understood but that doesn’t make them the same.

                plus, Vicodin has Tylenol in it. so i was taking Tylenol.

                • OceanSoap@lemmy.ml
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  0
                  arrow-down
                  1
                  ·
                  1 year ago

                  Caffeine withdrawal can absolutely trigger migraines, easily.

                  Not sure about the Tylenol in Vic, but just that opioids in general don’t work well. You can easily Google it.

    • erasebegin@lemmy.fmhy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      1 year ago

      yes, I used to have the same experience. regular smoking and then stopping for a bit was fine. but it didn’t leave my mind. It’s not physically addictive, but neither is shopping or video games, or gambling, yet so many people are addicts

      • treefrog@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        Weed is physically addictive. Withdrawal is very mild and only lasts a few days but it can happen with heavy use.

        I didn’t experience it until I got into edibles and vaping concentrates and I had used weed regularly off and on for twenty years at that point.

        So it takes heavy use, but physical withdrawal is a real thing with weed. But as I said, it’s the only drug I’ve been addicted to I would cold turkey.