Yeah, I have been hearing about Youtube blocking ad blocks for a while now and I thought maybe Firefox + uBlock Origin is holding ads at bay for a while, but yeah, it happened today. uBlock origin has been unable to block some ads for me and I am thinking of leaving Youtube. I searched day and night (wink wink) for an alternative and I found odysee.com/ and it seems to be open source and less prone to censorship, I was wondering what you guys were using or thinking of switching too. I think Odysee is FOSS which is giant plus for me and I absolutely love it’s looks.

What do you guys think?

  • gabe [he/him]@literature.cafe
    744·
    1 year ago

    It’s interesting, that’s for sure. But the fact it is filled by nazis and the comment section is just swarming with antisemitism and bigotry is very much not something I’m willing to sift thru.

    • kent_eh@lemmy.caEnglish
      271·
      1 year ago

      it is filled by nazis and the comment section is just swarming with antisemitism and bigotry

      Where there is no moderation and no content policy that always happens.

    • Maddison@sh.itjust.worksOP
      1512·
      1 year ago

      But the fact it is filled by nazis and the comment section is just swarming with antisemitism

      ahh man, I know what you mean, but I generally don’t go there for politics. There are some educational videos and some really good creators who post in parallel with YT (Vertasium for ex) and I think they are lovely.

      • axo@feddit.de
        333·
        1 year ago

        Sorry, but “nazis and antisemitism” is not politics. It is racism. Saying something like this is nazi-speech one should not repeat

        • Maddison@sh.itjust.worksOP
          412·
          1 year ago

          Sorry, but “nazis and antisemitism” is not politics.

          If you are talking about actual Nazis, well, I agree completely.

          Saying something like this is nazi-speech one should not repeat

          Saying something like what?

          • axo@feddit.de
            10·
            1 year ago

            “Nazis is politics” is here in germany often used in a paraphrased way by far right people to justify their point of view, since nazi symbols and thing like that are forbidden by law.

            By adopting such prases, even if unintentionally, one reproduces and legitimates such thinking.

        • Blizzard@lemmy.zipEnglish
          722·
          1 year ago

          Nazism stands for National Socialism - it’s a political ideology, so definitely politics.

      • DukeMcAwesome@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        163·
        1 year ago

        You don’t have to go for the fascism, racism, and disinformation. By shear quantity alone, they’ll be in your next 2-3 videos if you let it autoplay the next recommended video.

        I haven’t found a reliable way to just play my followed channels without manually making a queue of videos.

        • Fizz@lemmy.nz
          53·
          1 year ago

          Why would you auto play and not just pick the videos you want to watch? I used to use odysee and I almost never saw racist videos. The comment section on the other hand was a cesspit. I believe you can actually pick what comment section you want and use comments from matador or something else.

    • kent_eh@lemmy.caEnglish
      10·
      1 year ago

      Until there is a reliable monetization path, most of the content won’t be natively there.

      Similar issue to Odysee and the many failed startups who have tried to take on YouTube.

    • Justin@lemmy.jlh.name
      3·
      1 year ago

      The problem I see with peer tube is that the code isn’t very advanced, and I don’t think it would scale well enough to be a YouTube replacement at this moment.

      Video federation requires allowing all CORS requests, Remote transcoding servers were only just added, and there’s no high-availability on a per-server basis.

      • rufus@discuss.tchncs.de
        4·
        1 year ago

        Up to now it scales okay. And i had it wait and buffer videos way less than other video platforms. I’d say it’s perfectly okay.

    • Maddison@sh.itjust.worksOP
      33·
      1 year ago

      yeah, it’s pretty confusing and I doubt if that’s going to happen.

      fragmentation seems to be huge here

  • Shambling Shapes@lemmy.oneEnglish
    384·
    1 year ago

    Unmoderated cesspool. Even the most benign videos have bigoted chaos gremlins spewing their shit in the comments.

      • kent_eh@lemmy.caEnglish
        152·
        1 year ago

        Moderation of a private space and censorship are different things.

        • Limitless_screaming@kbin.social
          2·
          1 year ago

          They have a good system in place where normal users moderate the site; if a comment is disliked by enough users it’s “slimed to death”. It will be harder to find and when you find it you have to click it, to see what it said.

          This doesn’t work well because there aren’t that many users on Odysee compared to Youtube, and the users who are most vocal are not the friendliest people. so those comments aren’t overshadowed by other comments, and sometimes they are the only comments on the video.

  • InfiniWheel@lemmy.one
    26·
    1 year ago

    Sadly, even if you were to somehow avoid all the crazy videos (of which there are a fuck ton more than regular content), the comment sections are nearly always filled with literal nazi wannabies and people being openly bigotted in every possible way. Videos completely unrelated like Veritasium videos always somehow find the comments leaning into how Group X is to blame for everything and other vile stuff.

    Even their own announcement posts have people being openly antisemitic as their top comments.

    I’d argue its proof a little moderation is actually needed for a site not to become a cesspool.

    • _spiffy@lemmy.caEnglish
      9·
      1 year ago

      I heard about odysee a while ago but it felt dirty using it because of the huge amount of crypto and conspiracy content on it.

  • colonial@lemmy.world
    162·
    1 year ago

    It’s blockchain garbage. Avoid.

    Also, the only good creator on there is Mental Outlaw. And he’s also on YouTube for the foreseeable future, so…

  • Cheradenine@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    131·
    1 year ago

    The developer and the volunteers of Ublock Origin are very responsive, perhaps you could forward your issues to them.

    Many sites aggressively respond to ad blocking, it’s cat and mouse.

    I don’t know if they are active on Lemmy, they certainly were on Spezit

    • Maddison@sh.itjust.worksOP
      21·
      1 year ago

      thank you! I will do that!

      edit: seem to be getting rained with issues pertaining to yt, I guess, this issue is reported

  • PlexSheep@feddit.de
    11·
    1 year ago

    YouTube is too strong. The chosen one is still unknown. It will happen just after the year of the Linux desktop.

  • candle_lighter@lemmy.mlEnglish
    81·
    1 year ago

    My problem with odysee is that it’s blockchain based and content is impossible to delete, they can only delist it. It’s not foss, but Rumble has been getting more content that isn’t right-wing comentary and politics.

    It’s the only platform at the moment that I think could ever surpass YouTube only because creators can make money off it through ads very easily. I would like to see an open source platform like Peertube to be bigger but unless they can find a way to monetize it and give creators a cut, I don’t think it is likely.

  • LongPigFlavor@lemmy.ml
    3·
    1 year ago

    I gave it a look a while back, it’s not for me and it definitely won’t replace Youtube. I still remember when Vimeo was being touted as a “YouTube Killer” and we all know how that turned out. Vimeo did fill it’s unique niche though, and Odyssey does as well, but a YouTube replacement it is not.

  • quinnly@lemmy.ml
    31·
    1 year ago

    I was wondering what you guys were using

    I’m still using youtube because that’s where all my favorite content creators are and I don’t care about ads 😬

  • orizuru@lemmy.sdf.org
    2·
    1 year ago

    If a youtuber I’m interested in mirrors their videos somewhere else, I’ll subscribe to that source via RSS. But that’s just to divert traffic from YouTube, not because I have a preference either way regarding community interactions (I never read comments on videos).

    • Maddison@sh.itjust.worksOP
      1·
      1 year ago

      If a youtuber I’m interested in mirrors their videos somewhere else, I’ll subscribe to that source via RSS. But that’s just to divert traffic from YouTube, not because I have a preference either way regarding community interactions (I never read comments on videos).

      can you please explain this in detail, I don’t know about RSS and everything

      • orizuru@lemmy.sdf.org
        1·
        1 year ago

        Basically, an RSS feed is a link that gets updated when there’s an update to a website (here’s an example from my medium page). Anytime I post something, it gets updated.

        An RSS feed reader is an app that you can use to list out which websites you’re interested in, and pulls up any new articles that get published.

        RSS feeds are everywhere, but often hidden beneath the surface. For example, in the youtube page for Reuters you can’t see any link to an RSS feed, but if you right-click and press “inspect page source”, and then Ctrl+f for the word “rss”, you can find the link hidden there: https://www.youtube.com/feeds/videos.xml?channel_id=UChqUTb7kYRX8-EiaN3XFrSQ

        Most RSS feed readers would be able to find that hidden link for you (you’d just have to give it the normal youtube page link). This is how I “subscribe” to things, I just have one central app where I get updates on everything I’m interested in following (blogs, news, videos, etc).

        If a youtuber has both an Odyssey and a Youtube channel with the same content, I subscribe to the RSS feed from Odyssey.