One of the refunds reasons you can select is “the game doesn’t run on my PC”. This is completely valid.
Or do as I do.
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Buy game.
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Never play it.
I have a problem.
Or as I do:
- Watch videos of Cyberpunk
- Think of buying it
- Realize I still haven’t finished Mass Effect
- Never actually buy Cyberpunk.
Currently I’m thinking of Baldur’s gate 3, but you know… I’ll probably get around to it in a few years.
You’re allowed to get another game even if you haven’t finished a previous one. You’re only here for like 80ish years so why not sample all that interests you?
This is what I feel. I’ve finished ToTK and Baldurs Gate 3 once(so far…), but beyond that I haven’t finished a game in probably years. Hasn’t stopped me from having fun in tons of games over the years. I usually play for gameplay more than story anyways, with a couple exceptions.
Video game monogamy is a recipe for no fun 👍
Buying any game after 3-5 years is the way to go. The bugs are fixed, patches are out, so mods are stable and most of the time you can find a sale where it costs 10-20€. And if you forget about it before that time, that means the game was not worth it
On top of that, there might be a bundle with the base game + a few DLCs + christmas discount or whatever.
It’s not that great tbh. I spent maybe 6 hours in it and didn’t get hooked. With BG3 however, I’m at 60 hours and I can’t put it down
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Yes, once every time you distrohop.
But you have to put 0 for Windows.
Same, not enough space?
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Complex and recent games run on Linux these days.
Not allowing run a game in Linux is, nowadays, a choice from its developer rather then a causality. Proton is a really powerful tool!
If a game don’t run in Linux, via Proton or natively, that’s dev issue that actively blocked Linux.
It is almost always due to the anticheat programs.
Still… There are anticheats that allow Linux, like EAC, Hyperion and many others… If they choose one that does not allow Linux, or choose one that allow Linux but block it, it’s a dev issue
Virtually no anticheat worked on Linux just a few years ago except maybe Valve and Blizzard in-house solutions. Games that are out and already committed to a specific anticheat can’t do much but to wait, so it is not really on them. Changing the anticheat solution mid-way on a released game would piss off so many people you can’t imagine. On a brand new game though, I would agree that this should be considered.
EasyAntiCheat doesn’t have an excuse it’s essentially a switch.
Indeed. What sucks is that it is off by default, I figure most small-time devs simply need to be told it exists. I definitely wouldn’t excuse the big players though, most AAA game companies can get fucked for all I care.
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What? I thought Steam VR wasn’t working, I’v checked recently. How did you get it working?
Steam VR works fine, but you need a headset that supports Steam VR without needing other software. The main options are the HTC Vive and the Valve Index.
You can actually use headsets like a Quest 2, Pico 4 or Lynx R1, both wireless and through a wire. Check out ALVR, it works reasonably well!
Good point! I was aware of ALVR, specifically that it supported the Quest, but I wasn’t sure how stable it was. I didn’t know it supported those other headsets, that’s cool!
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Roblox is working on it there is unofficial way using grapejuice coming soon.
Roblox already updated the client to allow the AC to work on Wine. It works through grapejuice now.
Wait it’s already up ?
Yes, it says so near the top of Grapejuice’s readme. They also announced it in their discord server.
Oh nice to know.
Wine and DXVK made it increadably easy to support Linux and if a company doesn’t even put in that much effort or intentionally breaks the game for you it’s certainly not worth your money! I pirate rather than use the refund window but the principal is the same since I do buy good games after all.
Cries in pipeline hacks for DirectX. Didn’t Space Engineers do this?
I am not really sure what you mean with that tbh
Probably space engineers more abuses the direct pipeline than uses it, in ways that translation layers wouldn’t be able to emulate the quirks.
Their goal is to be compliant not equivalent
True, it can’t add new ones ether because it’s a extra layer and not part of the actual game!
NGL it would be cool as hell if they did just for linux wine devs
Exactly. And some do other dirty hacks in DirectX.
If there’s a game that can’t run on Linux in the current year then that’s intentional and it’s not worth anyone’s money.
You almost have to go out of your way to make a game incompatible with linux. Considering wine/proton and their various forks cover the vast majority of things at this point.
Even with ACs, the two most used ones completely support Linux. One is completely out of the box, maybe even as far as linux support being opt out. The other requires you to contact its developers to enable compatibility their end iirc.
Yeah, there’s this very obscure match-3 game I wanted to play because of nostalgia. The series peaked with 3 and 4 (and those are the ones we played on the family computer circa 2015) and worked perfectly on Windows. Now 3 works perfectly (in terms of compatibility) but 4 was better (in terms of gameplay). 4 is marked as borked, last I checked. For anyone wondering, it’s The Treasures of Montezuma series.
I don’t agree. There are cases with Windows only root kits for DRM, but there are also games that don’t work because of bugs. You see games coming out that barely work on Windows.
Blaming the Publishers and Devs because it’s actually pretty hard to fuck up a game so that it doesn’t work on proton these days
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Jesus lol.
This is probably true for big games, but I wouldn’t get angry at any small developer for not supporting Linux. It’s just not worth it/still such a small base.
Luckily most of the small inde games always support Linux. Most of those devs don’t have a need or time to go out of their way to botch the support.
Most of the time indie games actually do run on Linux, it’s the games from big studios that don’t (in my experience)
all the indies I play run completely without issues, even those that don’t use major game engines like celeste and rain world
Most off-the-shelf game engines these days have been well tested with Proton.
True. But small developers should support community owned things, as they are on their side. It’s not profitable in spreadsheet, but healthy for whole ecosystem.
Remember Windows creators are the ones having a dream for everything being on XBox and Microsoft Store.
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I mean, it is not a fault on Linux’s end. We have all the tools we need in the form of wine and dxvk, it’s the game which fails to work due to some obscure dependency or a mandatory rootkit. One great example is genshin- the game itself works flawlessly, but it has a rootkit which obviously does not work on Linux and you have to patch it out.
For me Linux gaming is Steam/Proton. If is works with Steam/Proton, I am playing them. I find that native Linux games are not updated regularly or at all. And Steam wants games to run with the Steam deck. And they are willing work to make that happen.
And game companies know there are a lot of Steam decks out there. And it is not hard to put some effort to see that it runs on that equipment.
All this is a big help for the Linux community. Many gamers don’t know that they don’t need to buy windows to game. Linux/Steam/Proton is a great option. That is why I make a point to tell people that I am playing Baldur’s Gate 3 on my Linux Ubuntu gaming PC. This is how I found out that Linux can play games and switch from Windows. Another Linux gamer told me it was possible.
Agreed. It’s just so sad to me that GOG to this day does not seem to understand their target audience. Seems to me that people who value DRM-free Games overlap vastly with the group of Linux users and still GOG Galaxy is not available on Linux. I would absolutely love GOG Galaxy natively on Linux with Proton integration. Sure we can run it with Lutris etc. but this has been asked from GOG for years. I tried buying everything on GOG instead of Steam until that point where that whole Proton and Steam Deck integration happened. Now I buy everything on steam, just for convenience. I would love to buy everything from GOG but there are just to many hoops to jump through.
Yes I think you’re right, there’s probably a significant overlap in the target audience of GOG and Linux users. I guess the reason why GOG hasn’t released a Linux version of GOG Galaxy might be because a large portion of their catalogue is Windows and doesn’t want to include something like Proton or Wine support. I don’t think it absolves them from criticism however.
Yeah I announce it in my steam gamer tag.
If there is one, I tend to use the native Linux version when I can, just to do my miniscule part to encourage devs to support native Linux, though on one or two games I have noticed bugs in the native Linux version that were fixed in the Windows/Proton version. That said, I am still quite thankful and impressed with how well Proton works for anything I use it with.
As someone new to Linux the fact that I could just check a box on steam and suddenly I could install and run the witcher 3 blew my mind. I had no idea. Last I checked on Linux gaming the solution was install windows 😂
I’ve been gaming exclusively on Linux since 2014. Gaming on Linux is so good nowadays, thanks to Proton, there are so many amazing titles available to play. Proton makes it all easy - thanks to it, it’s just a matter of hitting install and play on Steam (in most cases).
There are so many of them, If something doesn’t run on Linux, I just don’t care. My backlog of great games is so big, who cares about some singular titles that are not available.
I’ve recently been playing Baldurs Gate 3, ARMORED CORE VI, Anno 1800 and Battlebit Remastered on my Ubuntu rig. All run great. Neither need any special tweaks (I own them on Steam).
BG3 and Battlebit Remastered are especially stellar.
I recommend BG3 to anyone who likes true roleplaying games with great writing, reactivity and player agency.
Battlebit Remastered is a great multiplayer title with massive 256 player battles and it sits somewhere between Battlefield and Squad (a mixture of arcade and mil-sim elements).
Modern (post DS2) From Software games tend to run flawlessly on Linux. They are one of the greatest developers now. No bullshit, just greatness all around.
I heard a lot of BG3, although I dont have any doubt that it is a great game, I dont think it suits my taste. Battlebit tho, I’ll check that otu.
Isn’t it still true that a Nvidia card is better for gaming with Linux than AMD or Intel?
This comment sounds like chatgpt
I’m just some meatbag, unfortunately, though I’d happily merge with machine If I could.
But only if it’s an open source, penguin style machine.
Especially if they use an engine that natively supports Linux, they have no excuse not to release a Linux version.
There are tons of reasons my dude. You can still have platform-dependant technologies in your game even if the base engine itself supports linux.
I respect that as true, but every console other than XBox is either Linux or BSD based; at a certain point learning to work with alternative platforms is just good business practice.
I believe the PS5 is partially based off of FreeBSD and I don’t think there is as strong of a gaming scene on BSD (even relative to the size of its userbase). I feel like there would be some rather large leaps going from a tailored console OS to a more widely available alternative OS.
From my own experience, “not bothering” is definitely the better business practice since chances are you won’t make back the development costs.
Maybe Steam Deck and that porting library have improved things but a decade ago it would have been better business to just give Linux users $20 to not play your game.
This is officially the stupidest response I have ever gotten on a social platform.
I’d just like to interject for moment. What you’re refering to as Linux, is in fact, Steam/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, Steam plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another component of a fully functioning Steam system made useful by Steam Proton, DXVK, and vital Wine components comprising a full OS as defined by Valve.
I love you Richard Steaman
No, it is actually GNU/Linux+Steam 😒🤓
(Please don’t take this comment seriously, it’s a joke)
Too late, I now have “GNU/Linux+Steam” stuck in my neck beard, ready to be spewed forth at every opportunity.
heil the almighty proton compatibility layer
In my experience, the effort to fix Linux issues serve as a good litmus test as to how well supported the game is in general.
At least with games that aren’t from big studios.
If it’s anti cheat stopping it I blame the game. If it’s a bug or poor performance I just say oh well it will work one day.
