I’ve been using OpenSuSE for decades, both for personal and professional purposes.

I can’t comment about usability because I’ve simply used it for so long I know all its quirks and so on. What I will say is the tumbleweed is very stable considering its a rolling release. That’s largely due to their automated testing platform. It’s got a feel of a work focused distribution like red hat rather than a home OS like Ubuntu. Never the less, I’d recommend it to anyone who asks.

Tumbleweed has been amazing. No hiccups ever. Some packages that I like are sometimes missing, but that’s it.

OpenQA and BTRFS with Snapper by default w/ support in GRUB is the main selling point for most users

The lack of debug packages in Arch is what drove me away as a developer

OpenSUSE supports debuginfod which is so nice when developing locally

I’d argue Arch is designed to be easy for package management on x86. If that’s your use case, it is quite easy

Originally I was looking at Arch based distros such as Manjaro and EndeavourOS, during which I found out Manjaro is somewhat pointless because you pretty much should not use the AUR on Manjaro or else you will break the system inevitably. EndeavourOS looked solid though.

I personally wouldn’t recommend Manjaro, they’ve some questionable decisions and even failed to do some basic things, like failing to renew their SSL certificate, which happened at least twice.

However, I got a few suggestions regarding openSuSE Tumbleweed as a better alternative to Arch based distros and just wanted to know what are the pros and cons of OpenSuSE compared to Arch based distros from your experience?

Well, the two aren’t all that different. openSUSE has an better installer, which offers even full disk encryption, automated partitioning for disks in BTRFS with backups enabled. One big plus I can see in openSUSE’s favour is YaST, the graphical utility for system configuration, and allows you to configure nearly everything in a GUI.

Arch, memes aside, is relatively stable in my experience, only having problems once or twice with Nvidia drivers. I think that Arch’s biggest advantage is the AUR. Also one big plus of it’s install method is that if you read the documentation during the install process, and try to understand it, you’ll get a much clearer picture of how a linux system works in the “backend”.

Both distros are rolling, and the speed that packages arrive in zypper (openSUSE’s package manager) vs pacman (Arch’s) is rather small in my opinion. Personally, I lean more towards openSUSE, but both are good.

Don’t use Leaps, use Thumbleweed

The ability to rollback is indeed awesome. And it’s built-in. I think you can do it in Arch-based distros but requires additional config.

My experience with openSuse Tumbleweed has been mostly great so far.

I’ve used linux the last 20+ years (Debian, Ubuntu, manjaro, elementary os, fedora and so on).

For me the best ones so far have been Debian and Ubuntu server edition (for servers), Linux mint and openSuse (for desktop use).

I tried openSuse because I didn’t want to upgrade my system every 6 months (for Ubuntu) nor every many years (for Debian). I like the idea of having a stable main desktop system which I can rely on and it just works. I’m hoping openSuse Tumbleweed is that system.

I’ve used primarily openSuse with KDE on my main machine the last year and I’ve had the folllowing issues:

• some VPN connections do not work but the same one does work without problems on Linux mint. (For example the Fritz-box VPN) I’m still researching this.
• most tutorials are made for Ubuntu and other distros, so you have to search a bit more to find answers. (I’ve written a few on my site) You need more time and knowledge to do some stuff on openSuse, because the defaults are more secure (or less permissive). For example sharing a folder on a network or adding a network printer means configuring the firewall rules, which on Linux mint, Ubuntu and many others is not required (which also means that the required ports are open and the required packages are pre installed).

What I’ve liked

• there defaults are more secure and that means I’ve learned what some apps need and I’ve understand a little bit how they work.
• zypper dup is great and I love having a rolling distribution. (I also love apt-get btw)
• I feel openSuse is more stable (as a desktop, I haven’t tried it on servers yet) although I don’t have any basis to say that. I have another machine with linux mint and I feel I have more problems with stability there. (Again, this is just a feeling)

pros:

• very good defaults, btrfs with snapper integration like no other distro (i know of)
• up to date packages
• zypper is amazingly easy to use and understand (zypper dup, upgrades your whole system, one command done)
• if you need GUI tools to configure stuff, YAST

cons:

• worse documentation compared to Arch
• not the fastest packet manager
• a lot of unnecessary packages (not as lightweight)
• solutions for problems are not as widespread on the internet (a bit similar to first con)
• imo weird naming of official repos, also packman being almost required
• https://build.opensuse.org/ is kind of like AUR with automatic QC, but you have to add repos for each package which makes keeping track a hassle

Still if you want to hop around I think you HAVE to try Tumbleweed for an extended period of time, because you will come only to appreciate something like rolling release + seamless integration of snapper once you hit those road bumps. I also think arch is the way, be it in its vanilla form or something like endeavouros. But maybe you should gather some experience beforehand. Btw. I am using Tumbleweed on my personal (gaming) desktop for almost 10 years now. I am at a point where I want to switch, but at the same time feel so comfortable that I am not sure its worth the effort.

I’ve used Tumbleweed for round about a year and i am very happy with it. Ended my distro hopping, after i tried fedora, mint, kde neon and ubuntu.

I’d say im more of a casual user, so i didn’t need some special software yet. After a bit of setup things like browsing, watching videos, gaming and so on just work. Because im relatively new to linux im still not used to the terminal, i only know some basic commands, so yast is very welcomed here :)

Like i said, it ended my distro hopping - i like tumbleweed!

I found out Manjaro is somewhat pointless because you pretty much should not use the AUR on Manjaro or else you will break the system inevitably.

I think perhaps you misunderstood?

You should not use AUR packages for critical stuff like kernel, drivers or system libraries. But that’s true on all Arch-derived distros. The reason is that AUR is mostly unverified stuff and can go bad at any time.

The other thing about AUR that’s indeed specific to Manjaro is that due to their delay in publishing Arch packages sometimes an installed AUR package can go out of sync and not work anymore when you update the regular packages, and you may not be able to fix it for a couple of days.

That’s happened once or twice to me over the last 3 years and it’s annoying but, again, it depends on what exactly was that thing that you installed from AUR. It if it’s not something essential, as it should, then it will just be a minor inconvenience.

I’m not sure if 1 year of using Tumbleweed makes me a long time user, but here goes.

From my prior multiple years of experience with Manjaro and EndeavourOS, I must say that nothing beats the AUR. I sometimes run into softwares that are not on the openSUSE repos. If this happens, I try looking it on Flatpak. If it’s not available on Flatpak either I go search for the version that kind people have packaged for openSUSE. These 3rd party repos are kind of like PPAs on Debian(-based distros). If still no, I try looking for the .rpm made for Fedora or the AppImage version provided on the software’s sites, but this solution is less than ideal since it does not update automatically and the .rpms sometimes do not work. That is the main con of openSUSE. Other than that, I would say that there are no more major advantages or disadvantages to using openSUSE over Arch-based ones. A minor advantage is that things feel more polished on openSUSE.

I hope this was not too intimidating. Softwares available neither on the openSUSE repos, on Flatpak, on 3rd party repos, in RPMs, or in AppImages are rare. Still, openSUSE Tumbleweed remains my favorite distro and I urge you to give it a try.

Edit: I forgot another major thing about openSUSE. It uses BTRFS by default, and handles system backups for you. Fortunately, I haven’t needed to use this yet, but it is a really nice feature.

I have been using OpenSuse for over a year now, and it’s solid. Had 1 minor issue with audio crackling where i needed to restart Pulseaudio, but that’s long gone now. Highly recommend. Had regular breakages with Manjaro, so wouldn’t touch it.

I’ve currently been running tumbleweed for the past 2 years, has been pretty solid.

I’ve tried out a couple distros and my takeaways are if you want stability, go with an LTS (leap, rocky, alma, devuan etc) and if you want newer packages on top of that you could use something like nixpkgs or build from source for the packages that aren’t there yet.

If you want the latest packages/you do gaming or your hardware is pretty new, a rolling release like arch/artix is probably your best bet.

I just prefer tumbleweed as it comes with some useful stuff preinstalled out of the box. For instance, if I’ve ever had a bad update I’ve always used snapper to roll back as its preconfigured when you use btrfs

I’m interested in hearing about this from others, too. I’m in the middle of finding the next distro for my work now that centos 7 is reaching EoL. OpenSuSE is looking appealing (maybe because it’s completely new to me), using leap of course, but I’ve setup tumbleweed in WSL and am planning to set it up to dual boot and use it as my primary OS. Based on what I know, it wouldn’t be “better” than Arch, just a different way of managing updates. Tumbleweed is all automated for packaging and preparing updates, so the same issues that happen with AUR could also creep in to tumbleweed (I assume). One of the prices to pay for bleeding edge rolling releases

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