For me I would hold the social media companies more to account when it comes to hate speech and harassment online and force social media companies to do more to stop online harassment and hate speech.
For me I would hold the social media companies more to account when it comes to hate speech and harassment online and force social media companies to do more to stop online harassment and hate speech.
It is.
I hate hate speech, but i love free speech, so I have to live with opinions I don’t like or share.
Not everything you disagree with is hate speech. I think eg Germany has pretty strict limitations on specifically hate speech, but there are still plenty of people voicing opposing views.
That was my point. Free speech to me is FREE speech. Not "free speech unless ". I might hate what i hear but i would fight for the right for others to voice that shit. And yes we have strict limitation. And i dislike it. Even though nothing there would restrict me.
That only really works if the government is preventing you from saying it, and it’s not something like slander or causing panic. If your lemmy instance banned talking about Pickles, it’s not a free speech issue. It’s a private instance who can have their own rules.
Correct. If i own a platform, i decide it’s laws. Still doesn’t make unfree speech free 😊 I personally prefer spaces where everyone can voice any shit. Censorship is for lazy minds and a dull audience. IMHO.
You better be ready to own the consequences of that stance, which I assume you’ve been privileged not to need to. You can look up any number of mass shooters or terrorists who only got there due to online radicalization.
I always find this take to be remarkably short-sighted.
Because if you actually want to hear diverse opinions, you have to cultivate a space where diverse people, with diverse experiences, feel free to speak.
Pretty much every space that tolerates open bigotry becomes deeply unpleasant for the targets of that bigotry. Which means those people tend to leave.
Which in turn means that those spaces soon turn into the dullest echo chamber, populated only by people unaffected the bigotry. Sure no views were censored. You just harass everybody different off the platform. The net effect is the same.
@Dyskolos I would like my speech to be free from transphobes sending me death threats and creepy, perverted sexual fantasies. Is there a reason why you don’t want my speech to be free of such harassment? Is it, perhaps, because you want me silenced?
@blight
An opinion is one thing. Speech that has the intention of hurting others and/or inciting violence against others is another thing entirely.
Yeah and who draws the line? You? Is free speech only free as long as it is in consensus with the majority?
You see on one extreme you have people stifling legitimate opinion, and then on the other you have people advocating lynchings. There isn’t a simple answer, but the answer certainly isn’t to smugly sit in the middle and pretend you have it all sussed just because you have no skin in the game. Ultimately all you are doing is advertising that you are ok with lynchings or whatever other forms of bigotted violence because it doesn’t effect you.
It does affect me. I am for the free speech of e. G. nazis. Even though it will affect me and all of us.
But that’s not the point. Free means free. It might be dangerous, it might be far away from my views. But who am I to tell others when they mustn’t voice their opinion? Free speech stops with the very first restriction and rarely stops there.
You said it’s no easy answer. But to restrict “free” speech is an answer. And it draws a subjective line. Cool if you share the opinion,not so cool if you happen to be the opressed.
Not a long time ago (or today in other countries) women had no rights to dare voice an opinion. Or blacks. Or gays. Or trans. Or or or or.
We germans e.g. Aren’t allowed by law to question the holocaust. While i agree it surely happened, forbidding discussion is plain stupid. Question it, and be allowed to be convinced otherwise. That’s rational and mature. Just outlawing the question seems like bad parenting on a law level.
“muh freeze peach” okay peckerwood, if that’s how we’re playing I pray you get replaced lmfao
How eloquently formed arguments. I applaud you good sir.