If you where to try and explain the Fediverse to someone, how would you explain it with it’s different instances? As well as explain why it is better in some ways for the future of the Internet?

    • MudMan@kbin.social
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      7
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      1 year ago

      Seriously, though? Everybody goes to the email analogy. The email analogy really doesn’t work.

      Not only does it raise more questions than it answers, but it is also not a way people conceptualize social media and it generates the false assumption that the posts themselves exist as the component units of the entire thing as opposed to being tied to the format of the instance.

      The thing is you don’t even need to bring up interoperability for somebody curious about a specific federated app. In practice, most of the experience doesn’t require wrapping your head around that part and somebody can explain the details the first time you get a weirdly formatted posts in your streams.

      • Arthur_Leywin@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        6
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        It worked for me. Also since you’re so critical about the email analogy, what’s your solution?

        • MudMan@kbin.social
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          1 year ago

          Literally saying nothing.

          The wonders of interoperability are a small anecdotal thing for techheads. You don’t need to think about that at all, barring some edge cases or being lightly confused by somebody posting more than 500 characters on Mastodon.

          You just… tell people Mastodon is like Twitter or Kbin is like Reddit and let them have at it. A million federation evangelists will answer their questions in three months when they ask how come they got a notification from being quoted on a different platform or something.

          • Arthur_Leywin@lemmy.ml
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            4
            ·
            edit-2
            1 year ago

            How should those federation evangelists explain it? You’ve basically just passed the job to someone else lol

            • MudMan@kbin.social
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              0
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              1 year ago

              Yes, but crucially I’ve passed the job to someone else who is a) already doing that full time in excruciating, obnoxious detail, and b) who is behind the massive barrier to entry that is making an account and starting to use the service.

              By that point the people asking the question already know the basics and are engaged. At that point the problem is stopping people from scaring them away by overexlpaining federation, not getting them to understand how it works. It’s not the same.

              • Arthur_Leywin@lemmy.ml
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                edit-2
                1 year ago

                already doing that full time in excruciating, obnoxious detail

                How would this person describe The Fediverse?

      • Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        Yeah my emails are not posts everyone can see.

        It’s okay for tech savvy people but I’d go with something seriously less techy.

        Like it’s social media (Reddit, twitter, but not FB I guess) it’s just that it’s not controlled by one company. It’s an enthusiast thing.

        • SamXavia@kbin.runOP
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          1 year ago

          I know it’s more complex, just if you are trying to explain what the Fediverse is to someone who’s older or someone who just thinks it’s another social media instead of a whole new way of looking at the internet it’s hard to explain to that person who isn’t really looking actively for an ‘alternative’ for ‘x’ platform.

      • SamXavia@kbin.runOP
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        Especially when trying to explain that Mastodon and Lemmy can’t talk together but you can still follow / subscribe to people

          • edric@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            1 year ago

            And anyone can set up their own facebook/twitter site and you can choose which one to sign up with. Then you can interact with other people on other facebook/twitter sites.