Heard some sketchy stuff about duckduckgo recently, found out about start page.many users?

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      Nothing new, but it’s still a privacy centred search engine, but, same as Google search, whose engine does it use, puts advertisings, related to the search at the beginning of the results. It’s annoying but not put in risk your privacy. You can check it by yourself, with Webkoll, UrlVoid, Blacklight, etc. There are no cookies, trackers, logs or other profiling crap in Startpage. Anyway there are a lot of other search engines out there which you can use, Whoogle, Andisearch, AstianGo (default search engine from the Midori browser, a FF fork, but better, FOSS), Mojeek, Qwant, MetaGer, DDG, if you have little children, the 100% family save Swisscows, if you want planting trees or support social projects, use Ecosia or Good search. All of these protect your privacy and don’t log your searches, nor track you. Sponsor ads, or context based, like Startpage has, instead on surveilling or profiling, to create incommings, are not a privacy or security issue, server costs money. If you want to avoid it, you must use a selfhosted solucion or trust a public instance (Whoogle, SearX) or use a search engine which recieve a commision when you buy something online (Andisearch) or similar methodes that do not compromise your data.

      To avoid are Google, Bing, Yahoo, etc, which make money with surveillance advertising, logging your search and profiling you to sell your data to advertising companies, this is a risk and lack of privacy, not the other

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      Damn! Why do the good die young? Thanks for sharing, I’ll give it a miss.

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        It’s fine, start page still has control over their search engine, system 1 just takes some profit. The privacy policy is also distinctly different to the ad tech company

    • §ɦṛɛɗɗịɛ ßịⱺ𝔩ⱺɠịᵴŧ@lemmy.ml
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      There’s proof they allowed Microsoft to use trackers though…I dig DDG as they were one of the first functional alternative search engines to Google with an emphasis on privacy, yet there are much better options today. I’m going to have to peep kagi based on this thread, but I’ll need to be strongly convinced to switch from SearXNG.

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        Nope. Nor should you, if you’d only use it yourself, since pooling is integral if you don’t want to be profiled.

        There are public instances at Searx.space.

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          I take the opposite view - you definitely should host it yourself. Any public instance you don’t directly control can insert any sort of code they want to.

          A cheap VPS, rented using Monero, with SearXNG on it ensures privacy.

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            That is the point, If you want to go really private, there is no other to self host on a own server. If not, it’s better to use any of the other “normal” search engine with a good reputation. the privacy it has you can check with the services above mencioned., and to repeat until boredom: important to read TOS and PP to avoid surprises. These are legally binding documents, that is, if they do strange things with your data, without specifying it in this texts, a ton of bricks can fall on them with million-dollar complaints.

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    Never heard of it, but something to check out for sure. I’ve been using Kagi and it reminds me just how far gone most search engines have become.