Egon [they/them]

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Hey thanks for chiming in! I didn’t notice it was the same user. It’s pretty sad someone can be this resilient to challenging their own worldview. If they truly were so secure in their knowledge they would interact with the sources provided, yet they fail to do so. At some point you can only assume it’s because they’re afraid at some level.
It’s really disappointing

Lmao propaganda is when you source your claims so others can check for themselves. It’s pretty clear you’re just very insecure of your knowledge. At some level you know you’re wrong, so you’re afraid of being challenged on it.

Lmao thanks for the heads up - what a pathetic dickhead

Yes. Just as I would need us government papers if I were to prove the us government is deliberately committing a genocide. Now what can I do to make you interact with the sources?

You mean the dude pointing out how there’s no first hand sources, the report is making use of unofficial translations and the report is in part based on observations made by the us army? Seems like a bit more than just “handwaving” eyewitness testimony to me.

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Hey I’m glad to hear you point out the good faith stuff. I’m interacting with a few of your site buddies and I gotta say, there’s a whole lot of bad faith stuff going on, so I’m sorta defensive. I’ve provided sources a few times now and just get mocked or called a propagandist for it. Not your fault though, so it is unfair to direct the frustration at you.

I don’t expect you to read it all in one go - there’s a lot of stuff. We don’t have to continue the conversation right now, we can pick it up when you’re ready. I will say that I am not the one who gathered those sources, so beyond doing so e fact-checking and investigation on my own on these claims, I am not the most well-educated on the subject. We have a news mega, which is a great place for these exact discussions, which I would highly recommend. I can try to answer any questions you might have, though I think users like @[email protected] or @[email protected] would be much better for any question that isn’t super basic. I’ll do my best though, and I’m certain there’s a lot I could learn. Again for any real in-depth discussion I’d recommend the news mega.

Edit: nevermind you’re the asshole troll that couldnt read a single source given to you in that thread before. Fuck me for assuming good faith and fuck you

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Yes. If you can interact with and debunk the sources I’ve provided you and if you can provide first-hand sources such as official government papers detailing the CPCs sterilisation plans for Uyghur women, detailing how they plan to forcibly sterilize Uyghur women in order to eradicate their population.
This would be comical, since the Uyghurs are one of the fastest growing populations in china. So somehow they would both be performing sterilisations and still having the population grow. Someone must’ve messed up.

Now is there any way I can convince you to interact with the sources provided.

Propaganda is a list of western sources you can investigate for yourself. I am very clever.
Debunk the propaganda then

The website is a collection of sources with links gathered by a hexbear user because we got sick of having to do this song and dance every time. You can literally go interact with each link and each source individually - they all state where each claim comes from

Yet hexbear users are toxic

Talk about predictability, you guys are nothing but snide gotchas.

Here’s another bunch of sources, not that you’re able to read or understand them https://xinjiangahr.carrd.co/

There it is, you failed to engage or respond or argue in any way. How are you this afraid of learning?

The sources cited are in large part Adrian Zenz and articles citing zenz. Radio free Asia shows up as well. How are these good sources?
Not to mention that Wikipedia is known to have a huge right wing bias and a well-known Nazi problem

I don’t trust Chinese or Russian media either, I employ a healthy level of scepticism towards any media.

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Did you even look at the carrd? If you’re not gonna engage with the sources, then it’s pretty clear you’re not arguing in goog faith and there’s no reason for this discussion to continue

Are you this afraid of learning something? Coward

If you think it’s this important, why aren’t you volunteering?