it’s just far more targeted at Hezbollah members since it’s their electronics.
We need to wait for the numbers before we can say either way, but I certainly doubt it. The EU foreign policy chief has already condemned the attack as indiscriminate.
Admittedly I can’t find the civilian injury numbers (I don’t think they’re out yet), but I found this:
“Even if the attacks seem to have been targeted, they had heavy, indiscriminate collateral damages among civilians, including children among the victims,” EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell said in a statement Wednesday after he met with Lebanese Foreign Minister Abdallah Bou Habib for talks.
At least, they were indiscriminate enough that the EU foreign policy chief found it appropriate to call them indiscriminate, which makes sense given that they were at least strong enough to kill or injure the guy sitting next to you on the bus if you’re carrying a pager.
Also from here:
Hezbollah has vowed to retaliate against Israel. The group said two of its fighters were among the dead and threatened a “just punishment”.
Given that 12 have died so far (9 at the time of the article), I’d expect more than 2 to be Hezbollah fighters before I call the attack discriminate. Now while there is a chance they’re more discriminate than this information implies, I doubt they got enough Hezbollah combatants or combat-adjacent members to qualify as valid military action.
Just because an action has collateral damage, does not make it indiscriminate.
It’s definitely indiscriminate. They chose to use explosives that will cause large amounts of collateral damage. Even if the idea itself is fine, the 2750 injuries are 100% on them.
I mean the people carrying the pagers were likely with Hezbollah, but the 2750 people injured? Yeah no.
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Their propaganda, lies and weapons to Israel will forever be a deep moral stain on the West.
I mean add it to the pile but yes.
Please educate me.
Israel is literally an apartheid state committing genocide. Their democracy isn’t worth shit.
Uh… The Israelites who were there first are, for the most part, the ancestors of modern Palestinians. Your point simply doesn’t stand when you look at history.
Their leadership lives it up in Bahrain I think and has a dictatorship over Gaza
They have leadership in and out of Gaza. Which is so obvious I don’t understand why Westerners like to use it as a point against Hamas. The political leadership of Hamas needs to be able to negotiate with Israel and third parties, and when was the last time Netanyahu went to Gaza to negotiate?
Exactly.
Also Hamas is both a dictatorship and a group of freedom fighters. Fighting oppression is a good act on its own, but it doesn’t need to be done by good people.
No foreseeable workable solution for next 10 years.
Or 20 tbh.
I know but that was more of a fucking mess than anything resembling a policy to my knowledge.
I mean I also don’t think they’re killing hostages (intentionally, anyway), but to say it’s not in their interest is wrong.
Okay admittedly I didn’t know an election was held in 1996. That said, the PNA was (and still is) an Israeli subcontractor, and not at all a state in any sense of the word. The implication that Palestinians had political independence is false. When I said elections I meant elections as a state, which only happened in 2005-2006 after Israel disengaged from Gaza in 2005.
I assume they think that Israel is a 1-state solution de facto, in which case half the country does indeed not get a vote.
That person is me, and yes this is exactly the case.
Palestinians held elections until they voted in Hamas
Blatantly untrue. Palestinians in the occupied territories did not hold elections before 2006. The first and only Palestinian election was held as a result of the second Intifada, and after the election the international community refused to accept the result because Hamas didn’t agree to denounce violent resistance (which of course they didn’t because peace doesn’t work with Israel).
I’m not sure what you’re trying to say.
Then why do almost all Western countries consider Hezbollah a terrorist organization?