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2 days agoAs a matter of public policy, yes, it’s 100% true and the fact that he got a cease fire done the last day of his administration proves that.
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It is absolutely a blatant falsehood because Biden is on the public record over and over advocating a cease fire and a two-state solution.
You can’t simultaneously advocate a two-state solution while also attempting to exterminate one of the states.
Biden believes both Palestine and Israel have a right to exist. That is NOT genocidal.
Israel believes they should have full control of Gaza, the West Bank, the Golan Heights and Southern Lebanon and will kill anyone who tries to defy them.
Name does not check out.
Again, Biden’s direct quotations are not subjective. He legitimately believes that Israel has the right to defend themselves and supplied support to do that.
Israel misappropriated that support.
Biden acted in good faith, Israel did not.
I don’t see how it’s any plainer than that.
Was Biden STUPID to do it? Absolutely. That doesn’t mean he’s the one engaging in genocide, Israel is.
8·3 days ago“discovery of an erosion channel stretching from the Gulf of Cadiz to the Alboran Sea in 2009.”
Weird they don’t just say “Strait of Gibraltar”. Must have been something to see when that dam burst.
I’m also fascinated by the theory that the flood of Noah and Gilgamesh may have been a similar event from the Mediterranean into the Black Sea, which apparently been fresh water at one point before becoming inundated.
No, they have jurisdiction in the State of Palestine, you know, where the crimes are happening.
https://asp.icc-cpi.int/states-parties/asian-states/Palestine
Which is how they charged Israel for the ongoing genocide, Israel isn’t an ICC states party either, but you run around committing crimes in a states party, yeah, they do have jurisdiction.
Same for Ukraine and Russia.
https://asp.icc-cpi.int/states-parties/eastern-european-states/ukraine - Member state, Russia is not. Putin gets charged as a war criminal.
So if Putin, like China, started committing atrocities inside his own country, the ICC couldn’t cover it, not an ICC issue.
From your article:
“Prosecutors in The Hague said on Monday that they would not, for the moment, investigate allegations that China had committed genocide and crimes against humanity regarding the Uighurs, a predominantly Muslim ethnic group, because the alleged crimes took place in China, which is not a party to the court.”
They have no legal jurusdiction in China.
No, you can discuss anything you want, but you won’t be allowed to assert blatant falsehoods as true.
Same goes when I remove the arguments about Ukranians being Nazis or how they were the real aggressors after Russia invaded them or how the Uyghur genocide is all made up by Western powers to make China look bad.
Bullshit gets removed, repeated, unrepentent bullshit gets a temp ban. Repeated temp bans get longer and longer until the bullshit is excised.
Again, not a moral viewpoint.
Objectively, by any and all legal definition, Israel is responsible for the genocide in Gaza NOT Biden.
Quoted, and cited. You can go on and on about how you “feel” diferently, but you can’t say that and ignore a legal ruling as being subjective.
Unless, and I’m open to the very real possibility at this point, that you don’t ACTUALLY know the definitions of “objective” and “subjective”.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/objective
1: expressing or dealing with facts or conditions as perceived without distortion by personal feelings, prejudices, or interpretations
The ICC found Israel and Netanyahu responsible for the genocide in Gaza. Factually true. They did not charge Biden. Factually true. Cited above. This is the objective reality of the situation and comments accusing Biden of genocide will continue to be removed as misinformation.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/subjective
3a : characteristic of or belonging to reality as perceived rather than as independent of mind
4a(1) : peculiar to a particular individual
(2) : modified or affected by personal views, experience, or background
5 : lacking in reality or substance
“I don’t care what the ICC says! I feel different!”
That would be you. We’re done here, it’s like talking to a poorly informed wall.
Again, morality and philosophy are subjective. Legally, which is objective, Biden is not responsible.
It absolutely is, you kept bringing up the subjective vs. objective argument.
The objective truth is the legal rulings from the ICC court cited above.
Your subjective notion of what’s “philosophically true” cannot be objectively proven one way or the other. That’s the very nature of philosophy.
I gave you the citations from Biden stating his reasoning, I gave you the ruling from the ICC. These are all the legal standings surrounding Biden’s support of Israel.
If you want the objective truth, you have it, quoted and sourced. If you choose to reject it, well, I can’t help you with that.
Philosophy doesn’t enter into it, this is about legal liability and the facts are right behind what I’m telling you. Quoted, cited facts.
I’m not asking you to LIKE it. But you have to accept the reality that only a very small fringe believes Biden is to blame for this.
Not wrong, but Substack blogs are not news sources.
Again, not subjective. The ICC has charged Israel, not the United States, not Biden.
If the US were to blame for the Genocide, the ICC would have charged Biden right alongside Netanyahu just like they charged Putin over Ukraine, they did not.
But, like I say, it doesn’t really matter as the ICC rulings have no enforcement. Would be nice!
The fact of the matter is that Israel is (correctly) being blamed by the ICC, NOT America.
Not that it matters what the ICC says anyway, but that’s an entirely different problem.
The real problem is Israel doesn’t need our help exterminating Gazans, they never have. They didn’t need our help starting the blockade back in the 90s, they didn’t need our help killing people immediately following Oct. 7, and their snipers don’t need our help killing kids today in violation of the cease fire.
https://lemmy.world/post/24563168
The notion that it would have all stopped except for Biden’s aid is a child-like understanding of what’s been happening over there and the knee-jerk lemmy reaction of “US bad”.
That doesn’t work as a matter of international law.
For example, we have had multiple instances where we provided civil aid to a country only to have it confiscated and misappropriated by a corrupt government, that doesn’t mean we stop sending aid.
Again, what Donald Trump does, inside the US, is NOT World News.
It’s not subjective. Biden’s opinion on Israel is matter of fact stated and quoted multiple times.
Subjectively, I find it incredibly naive (especially for a President), but it’s not the same as Biden dropping the bombs himself which is how the “buh buh gEnOcIdE!” folks are playing it.
In the end, we now have a President whose only opinion* is Israel didn’t commit the genocide fast enough.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/04/politics/trump-israel-comments/index.html
“They’ve got to finish what they started, and they’ve got to finish it fast, and we have to get on with life.”
That’s what a pro-genocide President looks like.
* That’s unfair, he’s also of the opinion that a ruined Gaza is a great beachfront development opportunity.
No, I’m saying Biden stated, repeatedly, he was providing support for the legitimate defense of Israel, for which he was a full supporter.
October 25th, 2023: https://www.reuters.com/world/biden-criticizes-extremist-settlers-west-bank-2023-10-25/
August 1st, 2024:
https://www.jns.org/biden-reaffirms-support-for-israeli-self-defense-against-iran-in-call-with-netanyahu/November 26th, 2024:
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/biden-says-israel-has-right-to-self-defense-if-hezbollah-or-anyone-else-breaks-deal/What Israel chose to do with that aid is on THEM, not Biden.
I’ll allow it as they are already shipping people out on military aircraft. Almost 100 to Guatamala already.
It’s worth noting that these raids and arrests are warrantless which is in violation of the Constitution.