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Yup. My belief is that we are likely to eventually combine the categories of transgender and differences in sexual development (formerly known as intersex) as we discover more about it’s biological origins. The vast majority of people have never been karyotype and have no idea what their chromosomes are.

Yes, my point in saying “cured” is that it is a loaded statement but is logically consistent with the idea being trans is inflicted upon you by something external, and that would lead to conversion therapy which has been shown to not work.

There does need to be more research. The current research supports what I’ve said, and future research could change that. However, at the very least some people are born trans, even if others somehow become trans in some critical early developmental milestone.

As for the idea that the research is seeking evidence of transness being inherit at birth: that is not the case, there have been many attempts to study so called “sudden onset gender dysphoria” or the idea that someone could suddenly become trans, and those studies can’t find any evidence for that (other than one that asked TERF parents if it seemed sudden to them, who of course said yes). Other studies have shown that people tend to have a concept of their internal gender from about as soon as they can talk, which is the earliest we could possibly test, indicating that if it is not prenatal then very early in life.

Good to know, thank you for the info. That’s really sad.

That’s really sad. It would also explain how she is relating her micropenis, via shame and self-hatred, to being trans.

That’s a good point. I haven’t browsed 4chan since way before they had any LGBT community/rep visible on it, I don’t know what kind of convoluted views they have. Let me guess, some of them unironcally identify as “agp” don’t they?

No someone wouldn’t, because a core tenet of that theory is the critical points part, there is a separate point that influenced genital development and a separate point that influenced mental gender development.

Yes, exactly.

The word “likely” is just me acknowledging the potential for this view of trans people as being born trans, which is based on research, could change as more research is done.

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Exactly. Coming to terms with being trans, when trans people have been seen as nothing but the butt of far too many jokes in damn near all exposure most of us had growing up, is a difficult process rife with cognitive dissonance and defense mechanisms. No one wants to be trans, they just want to be their gender and have to be trans to get that.

Yeah, that’s what it sounds like to me. Cis people don’t transition their gender even if it’s “just for a year”, but trans people do try really hard to not be trans especially just before coming out.

I’m sorry if I misunderstand, are you saying you were forced to present as a woman? If so, I’m sorry that happened to you but it does sound like it worked out for you.

If that wasn’t the case, to me it sounds like you were unconsciously aware of your gender but had conscious defense mechanisms that took time to work down.

My experience isn’t all that dissimilar, in that I admitted to myself and my therapist that I was “not cisgender”, knowing perfectly well that that would definitionally mean I am transgender, but also denied that I was transgender. This was repression, “still cis though” to a higher level. It sounds like your experience was similar.

The judgement of whether or not someone is trans is if they say they are. I frankly don’t understand what I said that makes you think I think it is acceptable for anyone to dictate someone’s gender or whether or not they are really trans, but I absolutely don’t believe that. I edited my original comment with a clarification.

The story sounds inauthentic to the trans experience and I think they made it up. I don’t think the OP isn’t trans, I think their made up story doesn’t stand up to scrutiny.

The leading theory for what causes people to be trans (or gay for that matter) is hormonal fluctuations at critical points of fetal development. So we are born this way. People can be gender fluid as well, and they may have a different relationship with their gender(s) than I since I am not.

My basic point is this: If it’s inflictable, it’s curable.

I for one knew my gender from about as young as I could talk (Edit: I repressed this for many years due to massive social pressures). I remember my assigned gender being inflicted upon me at a young age, when I did not immediately conform. If you asked me pre-transition but after I realized I was trans whether or not I would press a button and become cis in my assigned gender, I would say that that feels like losing a significant part of myself. If you were to ask me, if I could have pressed a button and become a cis in my actual, realized gender, I would have said yes and that it wouldn’t have been a major loss of self at all. This is true pretty much my whole life. But I lacked the self awareness to realize this about my self, and that has changed, not my actual gender. We are quite literally gaslit our entire lives in regards to our assigned gender. Usually, before one comes out, one tries to embrace their assigned gender only to find that they do not feel comfortable (i.e. dysphoria).

I don’t reject people having fluidity in their gender or sexuality. The way I view it, there is a multidimensional spectrum and people tend to inhabit different areas of it. If they did actually change sexuality or gender, and not just discover it, due to fluidity, then they might inhabit an area that includes something close to or exactly their assigned gender as well as their realized gender.

The leading theory for what makes people trans, and gay for that matter, is hormonal fluctuations during critical moments in fetal development. In other words, we are born this way.

What do you think happened that made your internal gender change? To me, and to most trans people in my experience, it was a discovery of an already present internal gender and not a change.

It is also true that people who are more introspective, such as people who experienced trauma, are more likely to come out as trans - perhaps this is true for you.

You might say such a person is “not really” trans

Excuse you, I would never tell someone they are not really trans. If they say they were made trans by life circumstances, I would tell them that that is likely not true, but I would never dictate someone’s gender.

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A big reason that drove me was that I have a micropenis.

Fake. There are no “reasons to drive someone” other than their internal gender, this sounds like something a cis person someone who thinks being trans is a choice would say.

Edit: For clarity, I’m not speculating on whether or not the OP in the post is trans or cis, I’m saying it doesn’t sound like a real story because it sounds inauthentic to the trans experience. A trans person could easily think this up, like anyone can make up a story that is close to their experiences, but since it isn’t real it doesn’t really pass scrutiny.

Baseball cap! Wearing it now actually. It has a mesh back and a gray front with my state’s shape on it patterned with a rainbow 🌈

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