Why not both, though? In fact, China could also send weapons to help Ukraine.

No, but it does make it not-murder.

My position is no, none, collateral murder of kids is fucking wrong no matter who does it. What the fuck is your position?

Obviously. What is the point of stating this banality, this easiest positions of them all?

Yep. Very different. End result is of course the same, but so is the end result of a fatal aneurysm.

Perhaps you misread me or the article. The sons were not underage. I mean… they had children of their own. Did IDF know the underaged grandchildren were travelling with them? I have no idea.

Murdering people vs doing something causes people to die are very different things.

Okay very cool so you endorse wiping out entire families because of one person?

Do I?

We know that our species has the ability to deteriorate circumstances so badly that violence ensues. In many cases, there’s no obvious objective single perpetrator – things just deteriorate slowly to a place where nothing sane can be done to fix it. Israel vs Palestine is an obvious example of this happening.

Realizing this fact doesn’t mean that one supports it or any of the steps that were taken to end up in that situation. I may have the opinion that I would rather see Israel win this thing, but it’s not like I think that that would be an absolutely great thing. Just a less shitty thing than any other realistic option that I can see.

I understand that this means that I indirectly support deaths of people who deserve to die, but also of people who don’t deserve to die. But now that we’re here, there’s no path in which that doesn’t happen.

Of course I have no evidence. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe you also have no evidence that they were not?

I mean if my father was the head of a rebel resistance movement, I think it would increase the odds of me being part of the same movement.

IDF seems to be claiming that the children (not grandchildren, the ones aged 10, 8 and 4) would have been Hamas military operatives. That would make sense, given their father.

In my opinion, that would make these collateral deaths, not “butchering”.

Were they soldiers of Hamas or civilians who happened to be directly related to the leader?

None for otherwise.

A ceasefire may allow Hamas to regroup and survive, which would be a bad thing. Then again, from my couch it seems like IDF is not about to destroy Hamas completely with this war.

Slotted is absolute shit. Philips is acceptable if you must live in the 1900s.

Torx all the way. Every other type should be illegal and punishable by death of perpetrator’s extended family.

Typescript makes writing Javascript a reasonable thing to do. Your manager is a fad.

… but it ended pretty well.

Which makes tye problem worse. For many people, the default reaction to strong resistance is to double down in one’s own beliefs.

Time to start drinking copper

!btw

Well, at least you’re consistent.

The point is that Palestine has a history of exaggerating and straight-up lying about Israel’s “atrocities” in an attempt to control its own population. All the way from 1948.

JPost could be slanted, but so was the Al-Jazeera article. Should we also ban all articles from them? Also The Guardian reports only pro-Palestinian stances. Should they be banned?

Or perhaps should we accept that news papers have positions.