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  • In any demonstration, you have to make some unproven statement, taken as true. It could be “1+1 = 2” or “God exists”. So sciences are methodologies based on believes. Lot of religions use logic and reasons, based on science and philosophy, to deduce things from their core believes. This is theology.

    So if both science and religions are based on believes, and could have the same methods, how to distinguish one of the other ? We could argue that science try to reduce believes as possible. Personally I’m not good enough in sciences to argue with religious people, and demonstrate that point. In trying to challenge my believes in scientific models, I have to stay tolerant with religious people (I’m not sure I would otherwise); which is a most productive approach. Furthermore, it helps to have a critical point on view on science (as you’ve said, and to taking it as a blind faith)


  • How do you know that science is not a believe like the other ? My answer is in challenge it with other believe systems to explain reality. Of course some things make a lot more sense with science methodology, but to be faire, te main point of religions is not to explain gravity.

    I consider other believes as opportunities, no to explain to others, or to be taught by others, but making both and strengthen us all.

    However, we shall to care do not confuse religions and believes. A lot of people took part in religions and do not believes, and others believes and do not took part in a dedicated community. This is a different topic. Communities are generally a good thing, but hierarchy lead to abuses. This true in every organization, religions include




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    I am not sure this is a wide spread behavior among the IT. Reading the “Debian Free Software Guidelines”, we could have some doubts. My point is not that free software are good or bad, but that is not enough. If we want te be responsible as producers, we have to organize as such to stop production that killing us (with climat change or military for example) and promote the one that emancipate us. Free software are a way to achieve the last one, unions the fist one


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    I said such things too, but one day I ask myself, could I said it in front of people bombed by my tools ? Our tools are not neutral things, but produce and distribute by social relationship that we could fight. Sorry but we the rise of fascism and ecological disaster we could not afford to give up our power as producer to mass murderer



  • Yep, in a lot of countries. In France, the fascists has been stopped by the union of left parties, and the union of trades unions, and lead to the most social progress we still rely on (the first paid holidays for example). If we shall not thing that history repeat itself, this period have a big particularity that is not enough told : those social progress where not planned by the political parties, and the reunification of trades unions (like CGT and CGT-U) where not at the initiative of their leaders. Workers took the street and very offensive strike forced them off. Their sure is a lack of initiative of the workers, I think that’s why we fail during the retirement movement; and If trade Unions sure have a place, I’m not sure that it’s next to political parties in these “Nouvel Union Populaire”.