It’s not collecting anything. Your phone stores a hash of your finger prints and uses that to verify it’s you. If you already use biometrics then your phone already has that hash. And while we can never be 100% certain, I’m fairly certain that android doesn’t upload that hash anywhere, it stays local to your phone.

No it’s not. If you think it is, you don’t understand what it’s saying as well as you think you do.

This right here. OP is freaking out over a nothing burger.

Can we cut out the hyperbole. They aren’t requiring it and a hash of your finger prints are already stored on your phone if you use biometrics for other things. This email is likely meant as a reminder, especially for people who may not lock their phone down as much as they should and others (likely kids) can get access and spend money they wouldn’t be able to if it was locked down.

Because we have stopped teaching people anything in school. I learned critical thinking, civics, etc. Most people don’t. Schools just push kids through because the funding isn’t there and a lot of parents are assholes who don’t want to raise their own kids nor teach them anything. They let the schools do it and the teachers don’t have the time nor the resources to make up for shit parenting.

We need to stop infantilizing people. Yes, corporations are at fault but so are the people who fall for the bullshit. It’s not Pepsi or McDonald’s fault that people are overweight, it’s their own fault and their parents and society for not teaching them what’s what.

This shit is why I don’t interact much on social media as a whole. It’s full of jackasses who think that we should be basically living under a dictator because most people can’t tie their own shoes without help. People can handle a lot more than you think but they have to be taught how.

I say the above as someone who questions how most people are walking and breathing at the same time. Generations have let future generations down and the masses keep getting dumber because we let them.

Okay, now I’m blocking you because you have no idea what words actually mean.

You have no idea which end is up, nor what you don’t actually understand.

Have a nice life now.

You’re infantilizing people. Instead of treating them like toddlers, maybe we should be educating people and teaching them some critical thinking skills.

You may know how the net works but you apparently can’t read well because the last sentence of that comment is probably the most important.

Exactly. And you can’t be surprised when a company that also runs a search engine and ad network stores that data for other purposes.

I rarely jump in on things like this because of the lack of understanding of how things actually work as well as the inevitable responses like from OP and someone else I just responded to.

To repeat for those who may not get it just yet. Private browsing on FF and incognito mode on chrome are specifically for use when you use a shared pc or someone else’s system to check your email or whatever. It’s always been designed to protect locally not from the greater web.

I don’t remember ever seeing or hearing anything from Google about this mode hiding data from them.

You need to step back and actually read what I am saying. You need to also learn a lot more about how the internet works.

Again. Read my entire comment and then give it time to sink in.

Why doesn’t this surprise me?

I think you misread me.

I never thought that these modes were protecting me from anything except those who shared the same pc. Apparently I am the only one who understands the way the internet works and that nothing you do or any software you run on your system can stop every website and server you interact with or that passes on your data packets to the next server from logging everything it can about you.

How do people think that sites like reddit cross check and correlate data from users to find those with multiple accounts that are attempting to evade bans? There is so much data that we don’t even know we are creating.

I’m all for privacy and anonymity when and where it makes sense but it seems like people here have no idea what the difference between the two are and just how difficult it is and how much extra friction it brings to attempt to be completely anonymous and private via a system designed to connect people.

Am I the only one who never thought that incognito mode or the equivalent on FF was protecting me from anything other than anyone else who may use the same pc? I don’t share my pc with anyone so I only use those modes when I think a website is acting up because of previously stored cookies, credentials or my various script blockers.

Can’t find anything on Biden so go after his son. That’s classy folks, keep it up. Keep licking trumps a-hole. This country has gone to shit and you are part of the cause.

I know. But we need a system better than what we have. Or a modification of the current system to make it a bit tougher for people to use someone else’s credit. I have a few ideas but they would only work for those of us who can handle the idea of ssh keys, crypto, etc. The average idiot isn’t going to be able to keep easy access to the data they need to prove they are who they say they are. And I’m definitely against going with DNA, fingerprints, facial rec, etc because of where that leads.

As it stands, way more kids than you may expect grow up to find their credit completely fucked because their parents are assholes. Anyone close enough to you can probably answer most of the questions about where you lived, what car you owned, etc. We need a drastically different system if we want to minimize identity theft but as I said above, the average person can’t handle the ways to do it right.

In theory it could be based on cryptos open ledger but with encryption instead of being open to the public, accessible only when the person holding the private key unlocks it in conjunction with the public key. Data stored and accessed in a DB that can be hosted anywhere and isn’t under the control of any one organization or agency.

Something like a ssh key or what they are now calling passkeys could work. The question is then who holds the verification database and how do individuals (especially those who can’t turn on their pc) keep their part of the key safe and do we also have some other kind of verification questions like we do now to make sure that it’s the right person when so many small details are shared or similar across people.

I see what you did there.

Yeah, about that.

Good chance these were already leaked with the equifax debacle.

We had a solution to this problem and the banks went and fucked it up and with it our economy.

I’m based in Winston-Salem but I live in the outskirts north of Winston-Salem. I regularly make runs to CLT and RDU and everywhere in between.