Oh, I’m sure America will topple, sooner or later. Who knows? In one or two Trumps, perhaps. Or maybe it will take 50 years, or a century or two, until civilization itself collapses because of unchecked climate change. History teaches us that all empires fail, and there’s no reason to believe that history will stop at the U.S. of A.

And obviously there’s no denying that violence has always been a driving factor in history. But saying that it doesn’t mean saying that it is desirable. Sure violence brought us here, but, unless you’re a psycho billionnaire, you will have to admit that this is far from a perfect world.

I’m not saying violence is completely avoidable (I stand with Ukrainians’ right to defend their country in any way) but maybe it could be that we can try applying it less and less.

Reread the replies to my comment and tell me again that most of us get it. Most people are ok with violence as long as they benefit from it.

Sure, and look how many rights the most violent places on Earth enjoy.

Big mouth for violence until you or your loved ones happen to be under the path of a bomb.

Because if you play the violence game, you will always find someone more ruthless and/or well equipped than you are.

Achieved for whom? We’ve been following this advice since, well, forever. And yes, the elite might gain some material or political advantage from winning a war, but it’s a losing game for most.

As anyone else. But as a species we don’t seem to get it that violence achieves nothing.

Yeah, just give me a chainsaw

• Tankies: “Resisting invasions is now good”
• Russia: “Invasions are bad”
• Republicans: “Sending arms to fight invasions is good”
• China: “A two state solution is now good”

https://mastodon.world/@DarthPutinKGB/111206006465241459

• Qatar: “The West are hypocrites”

Hamas supports the status quo though, because the moment the war stops they slide into irrelevance.

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Palestinians maybe not. Hamas, definitely yes.

And Palestinians support Hamas.

Welp, it must be hard to be continually reminded that your idols are cold blooded murderers.

Well they are. Both (Edit for clarity: Hamas and Netanyahu) commit atrocities in the name of their sky-daddy. Both are supported by their populations. Both have an interest in maintaining the status quo.

But her emails!

Potemkin villages or human zoos? Come to Xinjiang and find out for yourself.

I should apply for a job at the CCP propaganda offices.

Descending deeper and deeper into paranoia, I see.

Good, good.

Grandmaster Troll

I vote for Thunder

I have no problem admitting Guantanamo, and all the other horrific shit that America did in South America, the Middle East, and around the world.

Tankies on the other hand actively defend Chinese atrocities and failing that, use American atrocities to deflect. Just watch hexbear/lemmygrad tankies swarm any topic even loosely related to the Tiananmen Square Massacre with revisionist bullshit. Example: https://lemmy.zip/post/3180475

We are not the same.

Because evolution settles for the good enough (to let you survive and have children that survive) rather than the best.