As per title, Help me choose a browser for android I have non rooted device. After all the researches I found best for me would be 1: Mull but with Some way for knowing which site have saved any data on my device (Maybe by extension or some defined page like about:config type) But as per my research I do not found any such thing. 2:Cromite or like it but with extension support like kiwi. 3:Privacy browser but just give assurance that google will not track me (as I have nonrooted device I have default webview).
I dont think that Vivaldi,Opera or brave stand anywhere when it is about privacy.
Help/advice/correct me!
I use Firefox focus for random browsing, normal Firefox for general browsing that I want to keep the history of, and Mull for anything where I want to absolutely minimize tracking / enhance privacy.
Do u use FF sync?
Not usually, I don’t find it necessary most of the time. I have a separate pw manager (bitwarden) and if I need to share tabs I just message myself
Trying to do same (with keepass and taking bookmarks in .md) BTW what u do for bookmarks?
I personally like to keep them separate as I use the different devices for different purposes. I don’t really ever have more than the visible row of bookmarks at any one time. If I need to save something I’m not using often, I’ll archive the page. Like for recipes in particular I have a directory filled with them.
@itsaj26744 @Daxtron2 I use Tor browser for most the stuff, DuckDuckDuck browser with tor/vpn for the things which aren’t supported in Tor browser.
Fennec (Firefox based), with Ghostery and uBlock origin installed.
You’ll have to set add-ons up as a private collection for them to work, but it’s easy as pie.
Ghostery sends like every website you visit to their servers. Its opt-out and Ublock origin is better anyways. Firefox really has a problem of not marking bad addons
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Mull is similar to Fennec except with some privacy tweaks. Generally Mull is better.
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You don’t need Ghostery anymore
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Mull works the same as Fennec, except it is hardended with patches from Tor and Arkenfox user.js. No real reason IMO to use fennec over Mull, whose developers also contribute to Fennec. Ghostery also changes your fingerprint, acting as one more data point. Mull has a whole bunch of configured flags to reduce fingerprinting, and many more to help with security (like disabling JIT).
Check here for some comparisons:
Following the pro-Mull comments here I’ve given it a try for a solid 48h, and just reverted back to Fennec. Mull is simply restricting the user experience too much, and I’m not willing to make the sacrifice.
My biggest annoyances:
- Websites don’t get information about dark mode from my device and revert back to light mode by default.
- Websites don’t get information about the system time on my phone and deliver content based on GMT+0.
- Some websites get wrong (or none?) information about the screen resolution and are unusable.
I’m aware that those details are suppressed to avoid fingerprinting, and while I believe that the intention is good, it makes using my phone more cumbersome, and that’s not something I’m willing to do. So my choices at this point are basically to keep using Mull and deactivate the advanced fingerprinting protection, or use Fennec as before.
Firefox resistant fingerprinting does the first 2 things, the last one is mobile partial letterboxing. All are anti fingerprinting techniques, but i understand how they may be restrictive. Maybe just add dark reader to have dark mode forced on websites, which technically can be fingerprinted but has a large userbase so idk.
Hmm but On FF there are no way to see induvidual site data
You can delete cookies and data on a per-site basis, and advanced tracking protection prevents any nefarious websites from exploiting your browser. That’s all I care for.
In firefox android, I dont see any way to delete cookie+site data per site basis. Are u talking about chromium?
No, I’m talking about Firefox. Fennec, that is, but the key functions are all the same.
It’s not in the settings however, you need to open the site in question and press the lock icon in the address bar next to the URL, the context menu there allows to delete cookies and site specific data.
Thanks a lot setup complete, Thanks to all on thread
Addons
Hmm but I dont see anyone working the way I want. Can u explain which addon to use? And how to use them?
I think you might try to bite off more than you can chew here. You keep insisting that you want to somehow see the data that’s saved on your device. Why exactly do you want to inspect the local cache of those sites? What do you expect the benefit to be? And what’s more: what do you expect such a local cache to look like?
I just want to know which site I am logged in and to remove those data in order to logout
Like on desktop I remove all data from settings of firefox from sites I am not using. Hope I a clear to you
Btw I want to have clear look that data just as on desktop but as addons will provide that data I think It is going to look bad But thats okay
Yeah, okay. So: Clearing Browser cache is a common feature in any webbrowser (even Chrome, and if Chrome has it, everyone has)
Regarding insights into the local cache: Are you technically versed enough to understand what you are seeing? If not, what good would looking at the cache do to you? I mean, whatever is in that cache is no indication about your privacy at all. As @minitycactus found out, Wikipedia logs your last visit. Do they spy on you? Very probably not. Besides, whatever they put into local cache is not something they have on their servers,
I wouldn’t put too much energy into a search for that specific feature.
Not a complete answer, but I stand behind Privacy Browser. The dev has a great blog explaining how the browser works:
https://www.stoutner.com/webview/
https://www.stoutner.com/privacy-browser-android/core-privacy-principles/
https://www.stoutner.com/privacy-browser-android/permissions/
I appreciate the transparency of the Dev and I am looking forward to the long-teased 4.x series that will ship with its own webview.
If you decide not to use it, keep it on your watchlist.
Its is in obtanium will use it as disposable browser when ready.
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I use Iceraven with ublock, privacy badger, decentraleyes and canvasblocker.
But I want to know site data saved on my device,Any way!
Cookie quick manager on Mull.
Second article says gecko browser do have site data isolation.Is there any way I can know Indivudual site data saved on my device
You are aware that they do not need to save the data to your device to track you, right?
Why not using Firefox, Firefox Focus or Brave?
Because Mull is hardened Firefox without telemetry. Brave is Chromium based and the company is shady.
How? It’s not on F-Droid. Play store is obviously not an option for a person, who cares about privacy.
Why not go directly to the source?
Imagine you have lots of toys, like your favorite games and cool apps on your tablet or phone. If you had to update them manually, it’s like having to go to each toy, take it apart, fix anything that’s broken, and then put it back together every time there’s a new version or improvement.
Now, think about having a special toy store for your toys. When you go to the store, they already know about any new cool features or fixes for your toys. All you have to do is ask the store to update your toys, and they make sure all your toys get the latest and greatest stuff without you having to do anything.
So, having a store for apps is like having a magical place where all your toys can be fixed and improved automatically, without you having to do the hard work of updating each one by yourself. It saves you time and makes sure your toys are always the best they can be!
Obtainium is your magical toy store
I’m glad that wizards keep pushing boundaries of magic.
U did not readed it well. As firefox on android do not have sandboxing and segregation things It cant give individual websites permissions like js cookie etc. Firefox due to same reason cannot tell about WHICH SITE IS SAVING WHAT DATA ON MY DEVICE.I need to know that info so I am asking for any solution but as per what I know there are no solutions
Sorry for poor english
Don’t ask, test and answer for yourself. Do fingerprint and security checks and see what comes out best.
I use Brave and uBlock. It does better when tested than all the others, including Vanadium, which SHOULD be besting them all. Firefox has come in second but still can’t stop it from bring fingerprinted regardless of what I do to it, that includes its spinoffs. Brave passes them all with its default config.
https://coveryourtracks.eff.org/
There’s more in depth checks, but that easily covers the bases. If you’re being positively fingerprinted, the rest is a moot point.
Bromite
Not developed anymore and insecure!
use cromite instead
Ya but sync?
try iceraven?
But for what ? ellaborate pls!
i could make out that you want :
about:config
mobile extensions
privacy focused
and iceraven is all 3
In privacy i think mull is better than iceraven with its arkenfox.js and trackers removal. Extensions can be added to all these browsers by custom addon collection
Any popular browser in incognito mode with a VPN?
“Any popular browser in incognito mode” is probably the worst advice I’ve ever heard.
Well fuck me then
Hey man didn’t mean to make you feel down. Incognito mode is just the wrong tool for the job.
I pair it with a paid VPN. Why isn’t it good enough?
Also, just because a VPN is paid for does not mean it is secure. Look into Mullvad and as a second option Proton VPN, if you have not already.
I have proton plus. What’s wrong with incognito mode and unlock origin??? I’ve been doing this for years. I’ve had no issues
Well to cut it short, Incognito mode often just means that your own device will not remember anything. Meaning your keyboard does not log your keystrokes, your browser does not save your searches etc. Even if this was compeletely true 100% of the time (which it is not, example, you copy or download something), then the websites you visit would still have your device’s fingerprint, so a VPN connection won’t do much. It is better to use a privacy-oriented browser like Mull. If you want to, you can add incognito mode ON TOP, which on Firefox and therefore Mull is called private browsing mode. Do keep in mind, that it is hard enough to have a non-unique fingerprint. This only gets amplified on mobile devices, at least speaking for Android. IOS is out of the window by default lmao.
😂 you’re telling me that by using proton plus VPN with, say, Firefox in private mode, websites still know who I am? I’m not logged into anything. They don’t know anything.
Yes. They do. Not by name, but by your fingerprint.
