Russian security forces raided gay clubs and bars across Moscow Friday night, less than 48 hours after the country’s top court banned what it called the “global LGBTQ+ movement” as an extremist organization.

Police searched venues across the Russian capital, including a nightclub, a male sauna, and a bar that hosted LGBTQ+ parties, under the pretext of a drug raid, local media reported.

Eyewitnesses told journalists that clubgoers’ documents were checked and photographed by the security services. They also said that managers had been able to warn patrons before police arrived.

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    Sure it can. But that doesn’t mean it is.

    Oh I’m sure if you look hard enough you’ll find one or two nazis hiding anywhere, even if they don’t identy as nazi or even know what it means.

    But Russia, with its actions, have proven themselves to be an imperialist, nationalist, fascist piece of shit. And while both could be true, actions speak louder.

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      I think it’s pretty natural to want good things for your imaginary team, everywhere you go across the USA you’ll see whites, blacks, asians, etc even in Chinatowns where people, particularly migrants consistently demonstrate a need to be self reliant, and on a higher level, extending that to your country, region or continent is not necessarily indicative of an anti-collaborative attitude at all.

      I look at it like a case of expanding your circle of sympathies from yourself, to your country, and further towards a collective transhumanism. If you cannot take care of yourself, rationally, you should be skeptical of your ability to take care of others, and makeup etc often does no justice considering the price these days

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      integrating the azov brigade into the national guard sounds like a bunch of Nazis are in the government to me.

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        Yeah, it’s a problem. A threatened country integrated a fascist militia into its army. Yes, and that’s bad.

        But the country as a whole does not like Nazis at all, and doesn’t vote for them.

        “In the 2019 Ukrainian elections, the far-right nationalist electoral alliance, including Svoboda, National Corps, Right Sector, Azov Battalion, OUN, and Congress of Ukrainian Nationalists, under-performed expectations. In the presidential election, its candidate Ruslan Koshulynskyi received 1.6% of the vote, and in the parliamentary election, it was reduced to a single seat and saw its national vote fall to 2.15%, half of its result from 2014 and one-quarter of its result from 2012.”

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics_in_Ukraine

        The country has a Jewish president and a Muslim cabinet minister. Sound like a Nazi country to you?

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          Agreed. Remember the golden rule of warfare: so long as the guy beside you is shooting in the right direction, you can sort your differences out later.

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          The country has a Jewish president and a Muslim cabinet minister. Sound like a Nazi country to you?

          identity politics are boring. there were Jewish collaborators in the third Reich.

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            In most cases, Jews who chose to collaborate with Nazis did so to guarantee their personal survival, which distinguished them from most other ethnic groups who collaborated with Nazi Germany. It’s not exactly a fair comparison.

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              but you see that identity is not a preventative for fascism, right? I don’t think the president of Ukraine is any more fascist than Biden or Obama. but I also take a pretty dim view of them.

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                I see your point and it stands. Certainly anyone can lead a country down the wrong path and we don’t know their true motives.

                My point was mainly that the power structure is seemingly reversed, so the incentives don’t make as much sense.

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            I don’t pick my favorite nazis here too lol. I point out one had 9 years of being dismantled and intermixed with regular corps, meaning it’s non-existent by now, and one is still intact and active as it’s own entity.

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              one had 9 years of being dismantled and intermixed with regular corps, meaning it’s non-existent by now

              i don’t believe this is true for a second. integrating was wrong: some of those Nazis surely stayed in leadership, shaping an even larger recruitment base. that shit doesn’t just disappear. it must be rooted out.

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        The irony of the whole Azov thing is a majority of their members are ex Russians who moved to East Ukraine because Russia wasn’t being Nazi enough for them.