Irrelevant, the original point was that they don’t want people who think, they want cannon fodder. As if people who can’t think would be capable of running a shop or leading technically minded people in workflows and processes that will affect missions weeks away. That’s just at the E-4/5 level, not even close to officers. If you can’t think in the military you’ll forever be bottom of the barrel, because planning and forethought is required for virtually all leadership roles beyond E-3.
90% of the military is in a field that has a direct civilian equivalent and is considered skilled work needing at least average intelligence and in most cases above. Most of the people shitting on the military in this thread couldn’t even hack half of the jobs the military needs people for.
I know that to be true, but if someone is claiming all enlisted personnel are window lickers the best way to prove them wrong immediately is to focus on the technical skill of the average servicemen.
Yeah infantry tactics aren’t for the stupid, not in modern wars at least. Advanced weapon systems and battlefield strategy require someone of reasonable intellect.
We had literally thousands of people going to school for electronics and various maintenance fields at any given time, it’s not even close to 0.1%. More like 20-30%.
Yes, absolutely. Who do you think is fixing all the tanks, ships and planes? You think we outsource that shit?
For every person who fights there are ten who fix their various equipment. Go look up AFSCs and Navy rates and at least half are directly maintenance related.
Every branch has fixed wing aircraft and helicopters, Army and Marines have ground vehicles that need repaired, and the Navy has ships and submarines jam packed with warfare and fire control electronics. It’s crazy you think otherwise and it’s obvious you have no actual knowledge.
You can look up the numbers, each year 6000 people are trained in repair by the united states military, that’s not 200000. The united states military contracts 350000 civilians for contract work. The united states military only gets about 60000 new people a year, that’s still not 200000 people. I’m not saying there are not educated people in the military I’m just saying it isn’t 200000. According to you we need 200000 highly educated people to fix our 5,500 tanks, and 13000 planes. Your numbers just don’t make sense
I didn’t say 200,000 people were trained every year, you did. What’s the total volume of the military at any point in time per capital that are in maintenance roles? Whether that’s the FC’s who fix CIWS or the AS’s who repair electrical issues on support equipment, everyone who uses tools to fix something.
Our squadron had almost 100 people in maintenance for 7-10 aircraft depending on mission requirement, that’s not even counting I level who fixed the circuit boards and did soldering which we never even saw. If you saw maintenance to flight hours depicted on a spreadsheet you’d realize it’s not remotely unrealistic for that many people to be in maintenance. Plus, planes and tanks make up less than half of the equipment that needs fixed, what about all the other vehicles infantry uses? The hundreds of ships the Navy uses? How many airman work on nuclear missiles and satellites?
You’re blindspots in how many things need repaired are huge, and your assessment of how many people it takes to fix one plane or one tank is totally off.
Yeah they want dumbasses running their nuclear submarines and troubleshooting electronics.
Only like ten percent of the military is infantry.
Those people they just entice with crazy checks and promises of leaving academia
Irrelevant, the original point was that they don’t want people who think, they want cannon fodder. As if people who can’t think would be capable of running a shop or leading technically minded people in workflows and processes that will affect missions weeks away. That’s just at the E-4/5 level, not even close to officers. If you can’t think in the military you’ll forever be bottom of the barrel, because planning and forethought is required for virtually all leadership roles beyond E-3.
90% of the military is in a field that has a direct civilian equivalent and is considered skilled work needing at least average intelligence and in most cases above. Most of the people shitting on the military in this thread couldn’t even hack half of the jobs the military needs people for.
They don’t want dumbasses there either. Turns out when your war is a silent game of hide and seek where the loser dies you have to be kind of smart.
I know that to be true, but if someone is claiming all enlisted personnel are window lickers the best way to prove them wrong immediately is to focus on the technical skill of the average servicemen.
Yeah infantry tactics aren’t for the stupid, not in modern wars at least. Advanced weapon systems and battlefield strategy require someone of reasonable intellect.
Those guys that run the nuclear subs and electronics are 0.1% and the rest are grunt workers or data entry.
We had literally thousands of people going to school for electronics and various maintenance fields at any given time, it’s not even close to 0.1%. More like 20-30%.
Out of 1.4 million I’ll give ya the thousands in electronics but it ain’t 20%
Thousands in training at any one time, there’s tens of thousands actually in the fleet.
You think over 200000 people are high level tech people in the military? Lol
Yes, absolutely. Who do you think is fixing all the tanks, ships and planes? You think we outsource that shit?
For every person who fights there are ten who fix their various equipment. Go look up AFSCs and Navy rates and at least half are directly maintenance related.
Every branch has fixed wing aircraft and helicopters, Army and Marines have ground vehicles that need repaired, and the Navy has ships and submarines jam packed with warfare and fire control electronics. It’s crazy you think otherwise and it’s obvious you have no actual knowledge.
You can look up the numbers, each year 6000 people are trained in repair by the united states military, that’s not 200000. The united states military contracts 350000 civilians for contract work. The united states military only gets about 60000 new people a year, that’s still not 200000 people. I’m not saying there are not educated people in the military I’m just saying it isn’t 200000. According to you we need 200000 highly educated people to fix our 5,500 tanks, and 13000 planes. Your numbers just don’t make sense
I didn’t say 200,000 people were trained every year, you did. What’s the total volume of the military at any point in time per capital that are in maintenance roles? Whether that’s the FC’s who fix CIWS or the AS’s who repair electrical issues on support equipment, everyone who uses tools to fix something.
Our squadron had almost 100 people in maintenance for 7-10 aircraft depending on mission requirement, that’s not even counting I level who fixed the circuit boards and did soldering which we never even saw. If you saw maintenance to flight hours depicted on a spreadsheet you’d realize it’s not remotely unrealistic for that many people to be in maintenance. Plus, planes and tanks make up less than half of the equipment that needs fixed, what about all the other vehicles infantry uses? The hundreds of ships the Navy uses? How many airman work on nuclear missiles and satellites?
You’re blindspots in how many things need repaired are huge, and your assessment of how many people it takes to fix one plane or one tank is totally off.