The Israeli military says its Northern Command has approved operational plans for war with Lebanon.

Israel is ready for an “all-out war” in Lebanon and has plans approved for an offensive targeting Hezbollah, officials have said.

Israel and Hezbollah have been engaged in border fighting since shortly after the start of the war on Gaza, following the October 7 attacks on Israel. The confrontation is increasingly expanding, with both sides saying they are ready to go to war.

More than 400 people have been killed in Lebanon, including journalists and paramedics, over the past eight months, with 25 deaths in Israel. At least 90,000 people have been displaced in Lebanon, and more than 60,000 have been forced from their homes in northern Israel.

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      Totally worth not having health care so we can support Israel starting wars around the Middle East.
      -_-

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    next up, invade random countries… don’t mind me I’m just going through Hitler’s to-do list.

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      The Nazi ideology is alive and rules in Tel Aviv. They just changed who the supreme race is.

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        These propaganda memes are getting more and more bizarre. This is the “Promised Land” meme that from I can tell originated from a faked photo of a patch on an Israeli soldier a few weeks ago.

        Israel simply doesn’t have the capability to take that amount of territory, much less hold it. And see that blue on the Sinai peninsula? Israel actually controlled that in the past. They returned it to Egypt when they made peace in the 70s.

        This is the silliest anti-Israel meme yet. Try harder next time.

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        Yeah, while Israel has been invading and violating Lebanon’s airspace for much longer than they’ve been shooting rockets.

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              Are you serious? Hezbollah went in and gutted Lebanon of anything not of their version of “islamic” and think they are going to get sympathy. Why do you think so many people left Lebanon during the civil war (if you can even call it that)?

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          So not really “invading random countries” like the person I responded to said, right? They’ve been fighting

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            Yeah Israel should have been sanctioned a long time ago for their airspace invasions. If they proceed with a land invasion, they should be embargoed by the world.

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              By your logic though, Taiwan should be launching rockets into China because China regularly violates their airspace. It’s just not how normal countries interact with each other man, these people are psychos. Both sides

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                I just said Israel should be sanctioned. I haven’t made one comment on whether the rockets were good or bad.

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                  I asked hasn’t Lebanon been firing rockets at Israel for a while - you said Israel invades their airspace (implying that firing rockets into Israel was justified)

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        You can’t really think of Lebanon as a country at this time. It’s a territory where several groups hold various amounts of power. Hzbollah is one of those groups. The “government”, or what passes for it is another.

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          Palestine isn’t a country. Lebanon isn’t a country. Excited to see Syria, Egypt, and Jordan suffer the same fate.

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            Palestine isn’t a country. It was offered statehood and turned it down. Lebanon is very much a country.

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              Palestine isn’t a country.

              More countries recognize Palestine as an independent state than Taiwan.

              It was offered statehood and turned it down.

              It wasn’t offered statehood. It was offered a shell of bureaucracy under the boot of an occupying Israeli military.

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      Why should they stop? They have the full U.S. M.I.C. to back them in whatever bullshit they want to do. If they can commit genocide with U.S. backing, then of course they can start wars with neighbors too.

      We need to end our bizarre, expensive one-sided relationship with Israel. We get absolutely nothing out of it except headaches.

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        The down votes are from the Jews who get offended easily and are first to say you are antisemitic. Sometimes a “/s” is not enough.

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      If someone could just figure out a way to point them at Russia, rather than picking fights with everyone else.

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        Well, russia be shipping muslims to Belarus like there is no tomorrow. Maybe tell Benny there is a lot of muslims in Belarus and they are coming from russia?

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            I meant like russia is Gaza 2.0 and Kadyrov is literally Hamas. Maybe they will fuck off from Palestine.

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              Kadyrov is literally Hamas

              Because he’s Chechyan presiding over a Chechnyan government? I’d think he was more comparable to MBS or Abdullah II, whom Israelis are openly courting.

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      Israel is thinking they can start any war they want because the U.S. will make sure they win. Netanyahu has repeatedly shown that the U.S. will do whatever he demands.

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    That’s because Netanyahu needs a forever war to keep his dictatorship. That’s always what this has been about.

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      Forever wars only work against enemies that can’t really do anything back.

      Israel is about to enter the ‘find out’ stage.

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        I’m curious what you mean. Hasn’t Hezbollah been targeting Israel for decades? There’s already been the South Lebanon Conflict and the 2008 Lebanon War.

        What will they find out that they didn’t already know?

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          I think if they do a full-blown invasion, they’ll find out that Hezbollah (and quite possibly the regular Lebanese military) is a much bigger, experienced, and sophisticated enemy than Hamas. Also, an invasion of Lebanon could easily attract third parties (like Syria-based militias or even other countries).

          If it’s a limited, restrained operation to create a buffer zone, it might not lead to escalation. There’s apparently a peace deal on the table that would accomplish just that but Hezbollah wants Israel to agree to the “ceasefire for hostages” deal in Gaza first.

          But let’s not forget that Netanyahu is going to jail on corruption charges as soon as he isn’t prime minister. He’s alienated everyone except the extremist parties on the right so, ultimately, they’ll be able to control policy just by threatening to leave the fragile coalition government. So, I don’t know if I’d bet on a limited, restrained operation.

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            I think if they do a full-blown invasion, they’ll find out that Hezbollah (and quite possibly the regular Lebanese military) is a much bigger, experienced, and sophisticated (…)

            Oh they know well. Israel has invaded Lebanon twice (at least?) and both times they failed in a humiliating way.

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          The situation is not static at all.

          Hezbollah has significantly improved upon their capabilities during that time period. Also, as a corollary to this, weapons technology in general has significantly advanced in a form that brings various capabilities to state actors that didn’t use to have the tech or financial base to support them.

          Guidance systems, avionics, electronics, and drones are changing the face of warfare in a way that removes a lot of the tech advantages rich nations had over poorer nations. But, the richer nations (And this isn’t just about Israel, but most of the western states) are sticking their heads in their sand because their weapons manufactures are used to being used more for laundering tax payer money to the right people then for making great weapons. The main drones for the US cost between 30-40 million EACH!

          Furthermore, Israel is going through all of the copium that settler colonialist societies go through when their martial superiority is starting to come into question. They clutch harder to their beliefs that make them feel secure. Israel withdrew in 2006 and declared themselves victors when it was obvious that they were not victors at all. Now, that is all that Israel remembers about 2006. That they won. That is what they truly believe.

          There are a lot of delusions that are about to break here. That is why I say that if they try with Hezbollah, that it will be a ‘Find Out’ stage.

          EDIT: Also, people tend to use the wrong measurement for what they consider to make an army strong. One of the most important factors is a willingness for a military to take causalities. There are very few armies stronger than Hezbollah by this measurement, whereas Israel has been very weak on this front since the early 2000’s. Having a conscript army will do that.

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            What are you going on about? Do you actually believe this stuff you’re pulling out of thin air?

            Lebanon has like nine fighting aircraft and that may be an over estimate. Hezzbollah has zero.

            Israel has hundreds of fighters jets and bombers each, with thousands of drones ready to fly.

            Lol?

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          You need to understand that most people’s understanding of the conflicts in the Middle East started on October 7, 2023.

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            Many users here start their understanding from about a week after October 7.

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        They will end up finding out that the US will absolutely have their back despite the genocide of Palestinians so that the US can keep their middle east ally. You know, like that one asshole who always starts fights because their big friends help out when they start getting their ass kicked.

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      This seems inconsistent with previous overwhelming thought that Israel wants to kill Palestine completely. Killing that many people that fast (in a course of just a few months) would not let it last for too long in the end.

      Also, is there evidence of Israel being a dictatorship? Is there an opposition that is being threatened or killed or something?

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          One person? That’s not an opposition. Where is the opposition movement? Where are oppressed citizens?

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            What are you talking about? You asked for evidence of Netanyahu shoring up a dictatorship and I gave it to you. Someone who knows him very well is saying that’s what he’s doing. I’m not sure why you think that isn’t enough.

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              I don’t think we have the same understanding of dictatorship. Dictatorship can’t be hidden to the point of being only apparent to special people. It should be obvious to everyone and especially citizens affected (oppressed) by it. So far I’m not seeing any evidence of that.

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                Again, you asked for evidence and I gave it to you. Did you even read the article? From his best friend? Who talks about exactly how he’s creating a dictatorship? Do you think there wouldn’t be thousands of Israelis at protest rallies demanding an election if they were having elections like normal?

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                  I hear Putin is a dictator and there are tons of evidence. I hear Xi is a dictator and there are tons of evidence. The evidence you gave (an article with words from one person) is laughable at best, sorry. Israeli people seem to live just fine under Netanyahu. Also it doesn’t seem probable that he would attack Gaza if the October 7 attack didn’t happen (and people are having a hard time trying to prove that he somehow made it possible). Same with Lebanon.

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      US has been trying to prevent an Israeli-Hezbollah war. Even al Jazeera says this in the third sentence in the linked article.

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        I’m sure al Jazeera would have said the US has been trying to prevent an Israeli-Palestine war before the conflict happened. We can see what happened with that.

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          That would imply that al Jazeera knew October 7 was going to happen in advance. Is that what you’re saying? Or is October 7 such an inconvenience to the narrative you want to believe you’ve got a complete mental block on it?

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            How on earth would what I said imply that Al Jazeera knew that October 7th was going to happen lol. There’s been threats of war between the two for decades.

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        nonsense. Israel does everything with American weapons. US wants more war, otherwise they would not be giving Israel so many weapons.

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    Right now it’s just some tough talk from both sides. It’s possible for this to amount to something more than the normal levels of exchanging fire that’s been going on since October 7, but it’s doubtful.

    Seems more likely Nasrallah just has to make some token effort to support Hamas to appease the rank and file. So he threatened Israel three days ago. Israel makes threats back now. Just another day in the Middle East.

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      Right now it’s just some tough talk from both sides

      How do you know that? The Zionist settler colonialist side has been doing Genocide for the past 8-9 months, this is not as you say

      Just another day in the Middle East.

      And like Hitler, Netanyahu is unable to stop. And unlike Hitler he is not fighting and loosing battles. When Hitler started loosing in the front, part of his entourage tried to talk him out of it, without success. This is why, there was even an attempt to kill him from inside the Nazi party.

      Netanyahu on the other hand, is not loosing battles since he is just bombing and starving people, while being supported in all possible ways by the US and most of the west. Why should he stop now? The Zionist plan of eliminating or displacing all Palestinians is working fine so far.

      Netanyahu is so pumped up he could easily invade Lebanon. Also Israel has attacked Lebanon twice and got defeated twice in a humiliating way. Last time was in 2006, meaning not that long ago. This is why Netanyahu has such a beef with Hezbollah. I’m afraid that Netanyahu has been given so much support and leverage from the West, he’s about to start an actual war with Lebanon.

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        Another day, another thing for you to rage over, right? Gotta maintain that outrage or you might think about how horrible Hamas is.

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      America has plans for all our war with Canada.

      maybe the White House burning down again would be a little humbling, who knows

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    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia–Syria–Iran–Iraq_coalition

    If the US joins Israel, that pulls in Russia, Iran, Syria, Iraq, and since Russia and NK just did their deal. Likely NK as well.

    AIPAC has bought off enough of both sides of the aisle, that our politicians will say we join.

    This ain’t the same WW3 shit we’ve been hearing about since the 50s. This shit can pop off at any moment.

    Israel isn’t acting rationally and Biden has repeatedly said he will support them under any possible circumstances. So what the fuck is going to happen?