• Saneless@lemmy.world
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    Usually there’s still an out of pocket max, like $5000.

    But I guess that could depend on your insurance

    It’s such a scam and the people voting against universal care are the same ones who complain they don’t go to the doctor because it’s too expensive

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      People are voting against universal health care? Do people other than hospital and Pharma owners actually vote against that?

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        Well, people who want universal healthcare have a D next to their name. That is enough for 10s of millions of Americans to blindly vote against it

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          Most of those with a D next to their name are fighting just as hard against universal healthcare while collecting campaign donations from pharmaceutical companies anyway. Both parties are rotten servants to the capitalist class

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              Until one of them starts to actually advocate for these policies i see no point in deluding ourselves into thinking voting blue will make any difference when they literally do not push for universal healthcare

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                Well, there’s one party that has made it a point specifically to make things worse for people. They say it out loud. So vote for the other one while it’s still a 2 party system

                Any other mentality is delusional

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        The propaganda is people “like” their private insurance and don’t want to be “forced” to get rid of it. There is also an anti-tax streak that has existed since the 1700s (no taxation without representation, Boston tea party, etc) that lives on strongest in reactionary politics.

        Edit: Oh and last time we tried to actually improve healthcare they scare mongered the public that there would be “government death panels” who decided whether you would get coverage. As opposed to the current reality where the death panels are real and run by private corporations.

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          This is the tragic half-truth espoused by the corporate media claiming there are two sides to this issue.

          Every time, they fail to complete the statement: “…give up private, but Medicare coverage will be better

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            I don’t understand why getting rid of private insurance keeps being brought up. Afaik none of the proposed laws would remove it. The point should be that the universal healthcare is good enough you don’t need private insurance.

            In Canada there is provincial healthcare that everyone gets for free, and many people still have supplemental insurance (private or employer provided) to expand coverage for things like prescriptions, eye, and dental.

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              That’s such a great point. It’s not like single payer would close down private insurance companies. The truth is they would just become redundant and people would realize they’re not needed, then choose to stop wasting their money on them…unless they can pivot their business to provide additional and desirable service beyond what people get from universal coverage.

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      I have a buddy who has his own dental practice. Incredibly smart, motivated individual. Hates the thought of universal healthcare. Also hates not getting paid. I just don’t discuss it with him lol

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        I wonder how many don’t go to the dentist because of poor or no insurance. He’d have more patients for sure

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          He would also be guaranteed payment. I just don’t understand him. He does a ton of free work for people because he’s truly a great guy. He would get paid for that work. Maybe he thinks he would make less money?

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      Most of the people voting against universal healthcare are comfortably middle class and want to protect their ~premium coverage~ or they’re on Medicare. Few people struggling to afford healthcare even vote lol

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          No, most of the poor in red states don’t vote. That’s universally true across the country - there’s a small minority that do, but they’re not the ones stopping universal healthcare. It’s business owners, landlords, wealthy blue collar workers, farmers, and retirees.

          This myth that the poor vote for their own oppression is something made up to make you hate poor people.