Gnome is written by, just hear me out, Malus workers in their offtime who got screamed at by Steve Jobs for misplacing a button by a few pixels. They wanted to write a Mac interface without some tech dictator breathing down their neck, but with the same philosophy of “we know what’s best for the users”.
They wanted to write a Mac interface
macOS windows have minimize buttons and a dock that’s not just visible when opening a launcher.
Meh, /g/ on 4chan which is where this post is from, is mostly bitter racists angry that can’t pelt everyone with racial and homophobic slurs in the community. They literally think banning hate speech in CoCs is akin to brutal Stalinist oppression.
Isn’t this just an ad hominem? You aren’t disagreeing with the point, just saying you dislike the creed that said it.
True. But still /g/ is pretty tame and people mostly discuss tech stuff like this post. Now /b/, /pol/ and /int/ are another matter.
Dismissing a post because of the platform it is posted on sounds pretty racist to me. Judge them not by the color of the greentext but the content of the meme. Or, something like that.
You uh… you haven’t been on 4chan… have you?
how about you stop being an entitled brat?
Entitled brat? What… Have you ever seen how GNOME developers respond to some bug reports and merge requests?
Since when has reporting bugs and contributing to the project become an entitlement?
Yes i did. Reported a Bug relating to the workspace switcher and a bugfix got merged withing 24 hours.
Did I say “some”? I think I did.
GNOME developers seem to have some sort of a weird “vision” for their software. If your bug report falls within their vision, good for you. When your bug report doesn’t, it’s insta WONTFIX.
The FDO icon theme fiasco occurred merely a few days ago.
People who do work for themselves and share it with other people don’t do work for other people, big shocker.
Like, seriously, if your Neighbor makes a cake and shares it with you, do you also ask them “that’s nice but can you next time make [cake i like]?”? no! you say thank you and you’re grateful someone is sharing their hard work with you!
People who do work for themselves
Did you notice that I said “merge request” earlier? Your neighbours were kindly helping you to make a cake and you responded to their kindness with GTFO.
If your code isn’t up to par, or your feature isn’t relevant enough and doesn’t fit “the vision”, it’s correct to deny it. On top of diluting the project contributed code add a maintainership cost that the random contributor will probably not be footing.
Accept everything in your cake and tomorrow it’ll be an inedible mess that nobody wants. It’s ok for software to be aimed at different people.
Guys I found the GNOME dev!
Ironically it’s this Behaviour shown here that will prevent me from ever opensourcing my personal Projects and thus becoming a FOSS-Contributor.
So no, I am not. And it is in large Parts thanks to you.
Then why are you here? The very platform your saying this on is FOSS, and it’s filled with FOSS bros.
Unironically why are you here?
Im sorry, I didn’t realize I wasn’t allowed to use and enjoy Foss projects anymore
Anything else you wanna gatekeep?
You can stay all you want, the best part of FOSS projects is that anyone can use and contribute. Even menial things such as messages on a FOSS social platform.
But you never answered my question. What compels you to use Lemmy, while being anti-FOSS yourself?
I don’t want you to leave, stay by all means, I just want to know.
Where did I say that I’m anti-Foss? Please show me the exact location.
Please explain to me how I’m anti-Foss when I’m practically only using Foss projects and donating to them.
I want to know exactly how I’m supposed to know any of that. Should I stalk you? Look at every account you have and learn everything there is to know? And who is saying your telling the truth?
Someone who touts “never making my projects open source because muh feelings” then says this has alot of double standards I think.
So to get it straight… You call people stating their preference on an open source project as being an entitled brat, while simultaneously saying you’ll never make any open source contributions while using open source because you wouldn’t like anyone disagreeing with you? That seems pretty entitled…
I make no demands and i give Donations. How is that entitled?
This Post and the Comments here are a prime example why i will never opensource any of my Projects.
Too many people here that feel like the Developers owe them something.
I would like the feedback to know why people do not like my project and if I feel like I should care about that perspective.
Further, gnome is hard to ignore, and getting harder all the time. Beyond being the default, even when I go to the trouble of switching the desktop, certain applications in GTK will bring the Gnome design language wherever it goes, and it’s deviated enough to not be possible to theme into consistency. It’s design decisions permeate the distributions and create some headaches even when you make a fair effort to opt out of it.
that is unironically amazing and the Foss Community needs people like you. And if i ever use one of your Projects, I’ll be sure to donate to you.
But: That’s you and not me. I don’t have the Time or Energy to maintain Projects for other people. My Projects are usually for my exact Usecase and that only. I don’t have the Energy or will dealing with people saying “doesn’t work for me” or “please update” or “please add [Feature that i don’t need]”
You can just ignore them you know
Or I can just save myself the effort.
It’s BTW funny how no one here criticizes the behavior I mentioned but instead attacks my conclusion I draw from that behavior. Which only further solidifies my decision.
I open source all of my projects. Most people I encounter are reasonably polite, but of course even my most popular is used by a tiny fraction of the number of Gnome users. In any case, I long ago stopped caring about being beholden to users. Often they’re doing me favors and finding issues I haven’t, and some even provide useful analysis that saves me work. A few provide contributions. But at the end of the day, I do what I do for me, and anyone else who benefits from it provides a small dose of dopamine from being useful.
I regularly fork projects and implement changes I want; I also file PRs, but in the case the upstream author has different opinions about it, requiring work I don’t think it’s necessary, I just let it go and maintain my own fork.
This is not Ideal Open Software Development, with many people contributing to a common goal. It’s fractured and selfish. But the other way, it becomes work, and nobody’s paying me for this, and so I give no fucks.
My mental health improved drastically once I stopped emotionally caring about the opinions of my users. I still care about the technicalities, but only insofar as they affect me or I deem them to be a superior solution. Key to this is not engaging emotionally; if I’m not interested in working on it, I just say so: I have other priorities, but an happy to review and maybe accept PRs.
Or i can just do what i am doing now and keep the Repos as private and only use them for myself, family and friends
