• balderdash@lemmy.zip
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    1 year ago

    I don’t want to sound like an incel, and I like eating vag/salad as much as the next guy, but imagine this image with the genders reversed

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      I agree that it would look quite different with the genders reversed. However, gender equality is not like mathematical equality, where every situation needs to be reversible.

      Women have traditionally been less sex-positive and less dominant, which many consider indicators of a lack of true gender equality, so a progressive community will celebrate a reversal of that.

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      IMO either party doing this is fine as long as it’s discussed and within the comfort bounds of the people in the relationship.

      I think the problem is an expectation when there has been no discussion about whether or not it’s within someone’s limits.

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        I have no issue with oral sex between consenting adults. But this meme would not be as well received if the genders were reversed. It’s hard to even imagine someone posting “always be there for your man in a time of crisis” with the woman going down on the guy.

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          I can only speak for myself but I wouldn’t really mind it the other way around as long as there’s no implied use of force or manipulation.

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          I believe “consenting” is key here.

          The reason why it’s taboo if the genders were reversed is because there is a long and well documented history of non-consent when genders are reversed.

          Was there non-consent where gals are forcing guys? Very likely. However what evidence I’ve seen suggests this is dwarfed by guys forcing gals.

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          part of the joke is the reversal of the stereotype.
          breaking stereotypes = good
          enforcing stereotypes = bad

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          Yes, I suppose if you ignore every single bit of the last few hundred years worth of context, it would be hard to understand why people might be ok with this, but not necessarily the reverse.

          Fortunately that context is available to you, so what I have trouble understanding is why you’re not accounting for that. Maybe you could elaborate, or perhaps do some perspective taking on why historically oppressed groups have certain sensitivities that privileged groups do not have. You might even come to realize that treating everyone exactly the same after not doing so for a very long time doesn’t come across as terribly fair. Because, you know, it isn’t.

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            You’ve conceded my point that it would be insensitive if we reversed the genders. So now the question is whether it is okay for us to show women doing something to men in cases where we are not comfortable with men doing that same action to women.

            And here I’m going to respectfully disagree. I do not agree with your claim that being a part of a more historically oppressed group comes with a different set of standards for behavior. This is like saying its fine for obese people to make fun of skinny people–but not vice versa–because the obese people have more often been marginalized in society. We wouldn’t accept that reasoning in the case of body type and we also shouldn’t accept it in the case of gender.

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              So now the question is whether it is okay for us to show women doing something to men in cases where we are not comfortable with men doing that same action to women.

              I think what you actually are aiming at is the question: Why is this meme upvoted? And why do you think the meme with reversed genders wouldn’t be?

              I bet you want to tell us.

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      What would be the issue then? 2 consenting people can show each other what they want sexually, no matter the gender

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        I guess the problem is the assumption that the man is consenting. A meme is not a place to go for realistic depictions of sex, though. I think this one is playing off that to create conflict/engagement.

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      In my mind she has a cock. She also is built like an amazon, so she can just lift me up and flip me round for some standing 69. Nice

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        There are plenty of memes which are sexist towards women. They just aren’t perceived as sexist but simply as “funny”.

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      Yeah! And that’s why men are actually the ones being discriminated against! /s

      You’re not wrong but you’re completely missing the point

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        And what is that point exactly? Women get horny too some times? Men need to do oral sex more often? Please enlighten me.

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          Have you been in a relationship before, when its stressful you help each other, if she wants an orgasm you give it, the street flows both ways. Its not always about sex either, fuck some times im the one that wants to cuddle. You seem to be quite the prude, and reading way too much into this, for the sake of your soul go get laid.

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            Go get laid? Damn, you sure got me. I’m going to go sit in a corner and think about how not to get owned. If only I had said something in my comment to indicate to anyone who can read that I had no problem with oral sex. I have realized the error of my ways and bow down to a sexually enlightened individual, such as yourself. Thank you @Thcgrasscity for your well thought out response.

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      Unless you have proof, this claim of yours is simply a fantasy. In fact, you can find plenty of spaces online where memes like this one, but with the genders reversed, are shared and well liked and sometimes they even mean what they depict unironically.

      Actually, this very posts proofs you wrong, since yours and the comment “Bonk” (which just means “too horny”) are the top liked comments.

      It really does seem like you just want to soapbox an opinion.

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        You can find spaces online for literally any position you like.

        I concede your point that my comment got upvoted but 1) I didn’t know how many upvotes it would get before I commented and 2) The post itself is still heavily upvoted. I’m just offering a dissenting opinion to the post’s popularity; I’m not on a soapbox.

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    Aren’t memes supposed to be funny? This just looks like a shitty Tumblr post.

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    While we’re on the topic. Everybody needs to read a book about pleasuring their partners.

    She comes first

    Her guide to going down

    I’m sure you can get more focused content for your particular situation if you looked for it, but don’t assume you know what You’re doing. Read and make the world a better place.

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    More importantly. Does that guy have a beard or is that just part of his hair?

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    What the hell is wrong with people in this comment section? yeah if the genders were reversed blah blah blah be pragmatic and enjoy that pussy ffs.

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    Is there a community for horny nsfw memes that isn’t actually porn? Asking for a friend of course.