• radix@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    When FIFA tells you you’ve fucked up, it’s time to reevaluate your life.

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    And it continues this absurd big scandal over a non-sexual act where explicit consent was asked for and was not a problem for anyone, until feminism insisted on turning it into their new cause. It’s been in the media spotlight for months while the real dramas go unnoticed, it’s a shame.

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      Have you watched the video? Consent was absolutely not given, he grabbed her head and kissed her on the lips. She kept smiling because they were in the middle of celebrating success and she just went with the moment instead of making a scene, but she clearly stated in the locker room on video that she didn’t approve.

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        This will be somewhat long and tedious, I will try to explain it from memory because I don’t want to dedicate the absurd amount of hours it requires. Maybe I’m missing or I’m wrong about something, if that’s the case please just talk about it.

        That video has been extensively analyzed by expert witnesses and they make it clear that this “head grab” was not forced. It should also be noted that a few seconds before that she hugged/grabbed him against him and practically lifted him in the air, so she was not exactly defenseless. Nor did it catch her by surprise, because he verbally and unequivocally asked for consent (there is no evidence of what she answers, but it is obvious that if it were “no” she would not act as she will later), which not only the expert witnesses made clear, but she herself has acknowledged. Moreover, this is an (absurd) tradition, there is nothing to suggest that it was sexual in any way.

        The event had a specialized team to detect cases of “gender violence”, one of their members was nearby and immediately asked her, and she declared that everything was fine. Later they did a full investigation, they also asked her and the others again, and again everything was fine.

        Then in the locker rooms you mention and other places, there are some moments when she talks about what happened, she mentions that she “didn’t like it” but it can be understood that she doesn’t like him in a romantic/sexual way, because she always does it with a clear joking tone. That becomes much clearer later because she herself also shows that video to her friends and laughing about it. There is even a scene in a bus where all the players cheer for rubiales, evidencing the closeness he had with the team and the “victim” (hence her surprise hug/grabbing him before the kiss, and the kiss itself).

        At this point everything is fine, until the “minister of equality” (equality in orwell scale) pointed it out as “gender violence” and from here everything becomes quite chaotic, so following the story is a headache. Let’s sum it up in that the “victim” started out mildly supportive of rubiales, then spent quite some time refusing to speak out or get involved, and finally was moving to condemn the acts; with some contradictions and lies being disproven, in my opinion she seems to want to attack the organization more than rubiales.

        PS: Still too long, sorry.

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      1 year ago

      Let’s just take a quick peek at your comment history… Ah, you’re one of those trolls that spends their free time farming downvotes. Got it. Bye now.

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          There will never be a day where trolls, and their defenders, receive any more of my time and energy than the minimum required to call them out and block them.

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            Ha… accusing me of being a troll defender for criticizing a fallacy, which in itself is another fallacy.
            I don’t encounter trolls on a daily basis, but for me a troll is not someone with a different opinion.

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          Ad hominem on deze nuts.

          Fuck trolls, they don’t deserve to be taken serious in discussions as their words mean nothing.