Well if I’m being honest from what I know it sure doesn’t seem like Israel punched first. Can you educate me in what you mean by killing more civilians? Like are you talking about similar retaliatory attacks killing civilians more civilians. Because currently I understand why is Israel is killing more civilians. I’m not arguing it’s right. I don’t think there is a right answer here. I do think the context of the attacks matters. Hamas has stated very clearly they intend on perpetrating Oct 7th again and again. Jews being in their holy land is literally against their religion they have said this repeatedly. You can ask a Hamas solder why he’s fighting and he will tell you this. Can you provide an alternative to what Israel is doing? I’ve asked several times. I wish I had an answer.

Yes I want you to explain how the extreme brutality of what Hamas soldiers did on Oct 7th compares to Israel relating. Have you watched the videos? I’m not denying the treatment of Palestine citizens by Israel but that does not give Hamas the right to do what they did on Oct 7th. Again watch the videos Hamas themselves recorded during the attack. They killed those people because their religion told them to. Hamas themselves said they will keep doing it again and again. I understand the death toll is high. But again what would you rather do? I’m just trying to understand your logic. I don’t know how to wage war but I can take an educated guess that it’s pretty difficult to tell the difference between a Gaza citizen and a Hamas solders as they don’t wear any kind of uniform and purposely hide amongst civilians. I’m not defending killing civilians in asking what your alternative strategy would be. Or how you think Israel and us should respond. Because zero response is an unacceptable answer.

I’m so very confused by this situation. For those who are against supporting Israel. Can you explain to me rationally why you think Hamas doesn’t deserve to be wiped out after Oct 7th? I’m not denying the civilian casualties I agree it is unacceptably high But that doesn’t caragotize what’s happening as a genocide. But Hamas has said they want a high casualty rate they are using their civilians as human shields. Would you really suggest Hamas should just be able to get away with Oct 7th because they are hiding behind their people. Like what is your answer if you were the one making the choice here? Please I know this is an inflammatory topic but I promise I’m only trying to understand your opinion on the matter.

You know, I’ve never seen a cat kill a bird.

It should be sure. But that’s not our reality. Even if you take away monetary value things still hold more practical value. Try collecting and making food for 20 people. Go outside and find all that or grow it or whatever you have to do to get it tell me how long it’s you and how difficult it was to do. Now multiply that effort to 8 billion people.

That’s an entirely different argument. I agree with you on that topic. Reframing capitalism to fit human well being is what we should do. But feeding everyone for free with zero work from anyone just isn’t possible. Saying there are starving people because capitalism is just straight up wrong. There have always been starving people and probably will always be. Feeding everyone is logistically crazy difficult. If it ever did happen it would take a ridiculous amount of work and money from a lot of people.

I really don’t think you understand how many people are in this world. Sure grocery stores donating food instead of throwing it away would help some. But providing good quality food to 8 billion people is not possible. Imo.

We can provide shitty cheap unhealthy food to everyone sure. It wouldn’t be easy but yeah we could probably do that. But we absolutely would not be able to give people the kind of food they actually need.

I would love to live in a society where robots over produce everything. Unfortunately that isn’t our reality.

You need to consume to live. This means you need to manipulate your surroundings in order to survive. So you need to work to have your basic needs meet. You don’t just get to live with zero effort.

I’ve always said that it’s bullshit that those meals were so cheap in the first place. Their lobbyists paid off a bunch of politicians to make it so cheap. It shouldn’t have ever been as cheap as it was. That food is terrible for you in every way. It’ll probably be good for a lot of people to stop eating it so much. So i see this as a win win.

Even after kanyes recent craziness i highly doubt hes only worth 400 mil.

The original mercenaries from PS2. If we had a fully destructible environment with today’s graphics god it would be glorious. If they could throw some co op in there. Man it would be great.

Ultimately the killing of sync brought me. But reddit just isn’t what it used to be. Every gaming sub is just a bunch of cry babies complaining about the game that used to be good but isn’t. Every post is just someone else reposting the same popular phrase or meme. It just over all sucks. I’ve actually tried using the app and the site it just doesn’t work well. It doesn’t even show content from all of my subs like sync used to. Now I’m using sync on lemmy and its passable. I actually kind of like the smaller user base. Less hive mind bull shit.

I like jp.

Same here it’s just good to be back using sync.