• IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee
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    The ENTIRE SELLING POINT of Citizens United was that “unions can spend as much money as corporations so it’s a fair system!”

    It is NOT a far system; unions can NOT compete; and arguing for fighting corruption with equal corruption is insane.

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        It involves giving money to politicians to get what you want. McConnell’s motivation for rejecting McCain-Feingold in favor of Citizens United was because the tobacco lobby was gonna dump shitloads of money in his lap. John McCain called him out on it in the floor of Congress.

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          That is a bribe. That isn’t what lobbying is exclusively. Lobbying is bringing your issue to politician to influence them to fight for you. Corrupt lobbyist will bribe to influence the politician. But you’re mixing up a subset of what it is with the whole. Lobbying is what groups fighting for abortion rights and civil action do every day. Tobacco lobbyist or your local wealthy family greasing wheels should dismay you from participating in it.

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            Yes, it IS a bribe…that is corruption. That is the subject of the conversation, which is why CU has to be abolished and lobbyist donations made an imprisonable offense.

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              No, a bribe is an illegal form of lobbying. It is not lobbying.

              If you can’t agree, I can give you examples of lobbying that is not bribery. and if you can’t understanding that then you’re not reasonable and just a time vampire