• bighi@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    arrow-down
    9
    ·
    edit-2
    1 year ago

    Hi. This is his video taking the regular train between NK and China. He made a playlist with his videos in NK.

    https://youtu.be/H9U78uolV80?si=C6HNaKU8KCFQOCRN

    I don’t know if there’s a way to generate translations from Portuguese to English, though.

    Also, I don’t know what are China’s rules on immigration. They already have 500 trillion people, so they probably don’t make it easy to immigrate.

    But no one in China will stop you from going from China to other countries. There are North Koreans that moved here to Brazil. And you can probably find them in other countries as well.

    I would guess that the biggest barrier preventing anyone from migrating is that it’s hard as hell. Not the process itself, but leaving everything behind and moving far away, speaking another language.

    And they would have to leave behind a country where they have free housing, absolutely zero taxes, good education, safety, and most important: guaranteed employment. So even though the US-imposed blockade makes their lives much harder, many people consider it to be better than moving to China and working 6 days a week in a low income job. Or working a low income job in any other nearby country.

    • spikkedd@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      11
      ·
      1 year ago

      I speak Portuguese. I don’t need a translator. In the video he stated most people at the train station are tourists and very few are Koreans going to China to work.

      He also mentioned not being allowed to take photos of anything/anyone involved in the military and being that they’re everywhere, most places couldn’t be photographed.

      I’m also Brazilian. I visited a military base in Brazil and took multiple photos and videos without having to hide it. Korea is not a free country.

      This video also fails to show the parts of North Korea that hasn’t been specifically polished for tourists to see. If you want the true Korean experience, don’t take it from a polished North Korean tour experience. Take it from a North Korean refugee. There’s many videos, interviews, and books for you to read. Your English seems good enough.

      • bighi@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        7
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        Yes, very few were Koreans going to China when he recorded the video. I just meant to show that they CAN go to China.

        Korea is not a free country

        No country is 100% free. They’re at war. Brazil is not. Not only that, but they’ve been infiltrated by CIA agents posing as tourists multiple times. So now they banned pictures of their military.

        But if you watch other videos from that playlist, you’ll see they did record military a few times.

        There’s many videos, interviews, and books for you to read

        I did. A lot. Like, A LOT.

        Unfortunately, some of the weirdest stories come from CIA-created propaganda.

        But NK did have a very bad period, which is when most refugees left North Korea. They were invaded and had their infrastructure destroyed so bad that they had to go back to using animal traction instead of motorized vehicles.

        That lack of infrastructure, together with the US preventing them from buying things from most other countries, meant lots of people were hungry and scared. They left Korea thinking that it was the worst place in the world. And for a few years, it probably was.

        Do you remember when a couple weeks of truck drivers on strike creating a blockade sent Brazil into chaos? Now imagine a blockade that lasts for decades. Now imagine that when someone destroyed your country so hard that you don’t even have reliable roads or factories.

        I would leave the country for much less.

        But they reverted that with a lot of hard work. North Korea today is not the same NK that these immigrants left behind a few decades ago. I’m not saying its perfect, I’m saying it’s not the hell that the US tries to make it look like. And it would probably be a very very good country to live in, if they could buy food and technology from outside.

        • Knoxvomica@lemmy.ca
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          1 year ago

          No offense but it’s like the entire world is telling you something and you’re putting your fingers in your ears and shouting lalalalala.

          • bighi@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            arrow-down
            6
            ·
            1 year ago

            The US is not the entire world.

            There are many books and documentaries with a less biased view of North Korea.

            But the US is by far the biggest propaganda machine the world has ever seen. And when you hear something so many times without having access to different viewpoints, you might think it’s true and that “the entire world” agrees with it.

            • Avg@lemm.ee
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              1 year ago

              Cara me fala o que você está fumando porque eu não quero nem experimentar.

              At the same time you claim the US to be this amazing propaganda machine that the world has ever seen, it is at the same time too weak to extinguish a few measley books and documentaries that are apparently not part of their propaganda.

              • bighi@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                2
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                1 year ago

                Yes. Because being able to publish propaganda is very different from being able to censor information that is published in another country.

                The US creates an overflowing amount of propaganda and they can push that to other countries. But they can’t come in here and take books away from libraries and bookstores. That’s not how things work.

                Their strategy is to drown the truth. And they’re really good at it.

              • BartsBigBugBag@lemmy.tf
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                0
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                1 year ago

                Tell me you don’t understand propaganda without telling me you don’t understand propaganda. Maybe read Edward Bernays book Propaganda, or Chomsky’s Manufacturing Consent, or Parenti’s Inventing Reality. The propaganda model has been extensively analyzed and there is no doubt in anyone who has done the research that the U.S. and its media apparatuses are the single largest producer of propaganda in the entire world.