• The Barto@sh.itjust.works
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    9 months ago

    So is that username pronounced “Ho Mobile” as in a car for hoes or “Homo Bile” as in stomach acid from gay people?

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    9 months ago

    The explanation behind this is actually pretty disturbing. Due to the growth hormones we feed chickens in America, the chickens become fully grown much earlier than usual. It’s like the equivalent of becoming a fully grown adult by the time you are the age of five, but you still have the mental capacity of a five year old.

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      Chickens do not receive any hormones. It’s been banned in poultry in the U.S. since the 1950’s when it was tested and shown to be ineffective. Beef commonly gets hormone implants in their ears. No hormones are approved or used in feed.

      The rapid growth of the birds is mostly due to selective breeding and nutritional improvements. The growth rate and adult size in animals can be massively changed by breeders. Just look at the Great Dane and mini-yorky in dogs.

      They also use antibiotics in the feed to reduce the bacteria load of the birds. This does increase the growth rate and reduces sick birds and deaths. It is not a good idea when it comes to antibiotic resistance buildup in bacteria however.

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        9 months ago

        For any Canadians reading this, adding hormones or steroids to meat and dairy animals has always been prohibited here for all types of livestock.

        Antibiotics are allowed on sick cows and pigs but they can’t be used for dairy or meat until they’ve been off the antibiotics for a period of time that is supposed to be long enough to flush it from their system. Chickens are too short lived and antibiotics are prohibited if they are to be sold for human consumption.

        You know how A&W advertises that their beef is free of added hormones and steroids? Well that’s actually true for all meat sold in Canada. A&W is just the only one advertising it. Pretty clever as campaign, actually.

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        They also use antibiotics in the feed […] It is not a good idea

        It’s a fucking collision course with reality doomed to send us back to the 19th century.

        But of course, for a short duration of human history, it marginally increased the profits for stakeholders.

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      I’ve raised Cornish crosses and fed them normal, quality feed without any hormones: they ended up looking just like the chicken on the right at about 8 weeks old.

      They’ve been selectively bred over the decades to grow as fast as possible, as big as possible, docile, and stupid.

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        9 months ago

        It’s like the movie “Big”, except the chicken did not wish for it.

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        If you watch Super Size Me 2, they go into a lot more detail on why the selective breeding is so disturbing.

        Amoung other things, the birds are bred for meat muscle development, their cardiovascular systems have not been equally enhanced and as a result, chicken farmers know that the birds are big enough for slaughter because some of them will just start dropping dead of heart failure.

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    9 months ago

    Now that I’ve experienced 4202 x gravity, I must train in 4202 x gravity!

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            Non-human animals share all the traits you value in humans to not inflict pain and death on them. Ability to feel pain, have future goals and desires, build social bonds etc. Choosing to hurt them purely because they’re animals is arbitrary. Would you be fine with someone hurting and then killing and eating someone’s dog just because it falls into your two criteria? Tastes good and causes death and pain to an animal.

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              I dont want to inflict pain on humans specifically because they are humans. Your desire to not hurt these animals is just as arbitrary as my indifference to their suffering.

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                My desire to not hurt animals isn’t because they’re animals. Discriminating against non-human animals is just an arbitrary class like discrimimating on race, intelligence, or sexuality etc. It’s more reasonable to choose morally relevant principles like whether or not we should inflict suffering, death, or mass breed their species and propetually deny them of freedom because they can feel pain, they want to live, and they want to be free. There’s no trait that is specifically for humans and not for non-human animals and thus its arbitrary.

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    I guess that’s also why people started having turkey for big family gatherings even through chicken tastes better.

    Now a chicken is perfectly adequate for a family of four, or even six depending on the trimmings.

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    9 months ago

    this chicken is probably less than 2 years old. chickens could live for 10years if they’d be left alone.

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      I don’t think chickens raised for meat live anywhere near 2 years. Yeah, a quick google shows around a 2 month harvest time for chickens raised for meat. That’s a big part of why chickens are such amazing creatures and make such an affordable protein source, they can be sustainably* harvested year round. (Sustainably as in without decreasing the size of your flock.)

      Laying hens are productive for two to three years. They rarely make it into the human food supply though, after that long the texture and flavor of the meat changes and American consumers don’t prefer it. You can probably get them through a local butcher shop, though they might have to order it for you.

      In a small and well managed flock, chickens can live 6 to 8 years. In the wild, I don’t think modern chickens would exist at all. Ask anyone who’s kept chickens, keeping the hawks and foxes and raccoons etc. out of them is a constant and eternal struggle.

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      No. It is much, much, much worse.

      I quote :

      Broilers chickens are specially bred for fast growth and slaughtered when they weigh approximately four pounds, usually between seven and nine weeks of age. Birds between 12 and 20 weeks of age, typically weighing between five and ten pounds, are called roasters