• Linkerbaan@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    The poll found that 53% of Palestinians believe Hamas is “most deserving of representing and leading the Palestinian people,” while only 14% prefer Abbas’ secular Fatah party.

    Abbas faces a major crisis of legitimacy among Palestinians after calling off the first elections in 15 years in April.

    At the time, it appeared Fatah would suffer another humiliating defeat to Hamas, which won a landslide victory in 2006 parliamentary elections. But his decision, citing Israel’s refusal to grant permission for voting in east Jerusalem, also helped clear the way for Hamas to draw attention to Abbas’ weakness in the holy city.

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      This is an old article, and captures, at it says, a spike, not an overall trend. From your source:

      Head pollster Khalil Shikaki, who has been surveying Palestinian public opinion for more than two decades, called it a “dramatic” shift, but said it also resembles previous swings toward Hamas during times of confrontation. Those all dissipated within three to six months as Hamas failed to deliver on promises of change.

      https://news.stanford.edu/report/2023/12/05/palestinians-views-oct-7/

      According to the latest survey, a majority of Palestinians (51%) supported a two-state solution based on the 1967 borders, with slightly more support seen among residents of Gaza than among West Bank Palestinians. A quarter of respondents also said they supported “armed resistance” as a preferred solution to Palestinian-Israeli conflict.

      The results also revealed a very low level of support among Palestinians for institutions, whether it be the Palestinian Authority or Hamas. “The Palestinians don’t feel that any of their leaders are really legitimate in this sense,” said Robbins.

      Arguably, this does not imply they are hated or anything else you said, nor does your source. As well there is support for reforming the PA:

      A related issue, Jamal added, is that the Palestinian Authority (PA) has lost legitimacy, due to both its levels of corruption and the continued failure of the peace process. If Palestinians are to ever believe in a future that extends beyond Hamas, she said, then the international community must work together to help bolster the legitimacy of the PA so that it can be the champion of the peace process.

      https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/us-new-palestinian-government-political-reform-rcna145717

      The United States has welcomed the formation of a new Palestinian autonomy government, signaling it is accepting the revised Cabinet lineup as a step toward Palestinian political reform.

      The Biden administration has called for “revitalizing” the West Bank-based Palestinian Authority in hopes that it can also administer the Gaza Strip once the Israel-Hamas war ends. The war erupted nearly six months ago, triggered by an Oct. 7 Hamas attack on southern Israel.

      In a statement late Friday, U.S. State Department spokesperson Matthew Miller said the United States looks forward to working with the new group of ministers “to deliver on credible reforms.”

      And this fails to address the substance of what was said, instead aiming to undermine the person saying it.

      I won’t be continuing with this conversation.

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        @[email protected] Has a very low standard of evidence. I’ve asked them about this many times. Also, I like how he casually throws in statements like:

        They are Israeli plants.

        And then moves on like it’s de facto true and ignores the rest of your article.

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            @[email protected] general strategy is to flood spam every palestine related thread with as much content/articles possible in the hopes that no one clicks through them or reads them. It’s a sort of gish gallop but implemented at a mass scale. The idea is to overwhelm the interlocutor

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        Yes it’s from 2021 and shows PA using israel as a reason to deny new elections. I have proven they are deeply unpopular and in bed with israel. Even before Hamas’ massive rise in support after their strike against israel the PA was already less popular than Hamas.

        Denying evidence and pretending you are right sure is a great way to end an argument.

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          I have proven they are deeply unpopular and in bed with israel.

          Where did you prove this? With a three year old poll!? You are saying a poll is evidence that Fatah is colluding with Israel? Are you even for real