• MamboGator@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    We can make fun of tankies without perpetuating the alt-right “akshewally the notsees were soshulist” lie.

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      7 months ago

      I feel like that’s built in to the joke. Making fun of people who think Nazis did any amount of socialism.

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        7 months ago

        Yeah, it was implied that Nazis aren’t actually socialist but rather the tankies and ccp cucks would literally defend anything that opposes western world powers.

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      7 months ago

      Neither were Russia or China under Stalin or Mao Zedong, but they still figuratively suck them off.

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    7 months ago

    Hexbeara are definitely wrong about things… But I have never seen them do anti-Semitism. And the Nazis really can’t be considered socialist— you can disapprove of socialism without lying or being misinformed and claiming that the Nazis were socialist—Hitler essentially joined and took over what maybe at some point was a pro worker party. They killed like a lot of communists.

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      7 months ago

      They support the current treatment of Tibet and Uighurs in China, they also support Putin in the war. They think NATO and the UN is a threat to world peace.

      How is that any different from supporting literal nazis? They’re functionally morally equivalent.

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        7 months ago

        Tankies are definitely also authoritarian, and they also oppose anything western and democratic, but that doesn’t make them Nazi’s. Don’t forget that the Soviet Union also murdered a lot of people out of the name of communism. These two ideologies oppose each other in many ways, even if the end result in both cases is horrible.

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    7 months ago

    Thanks to Lemmy, I’m finding out people think socialism is a political agenda and do not understand that any political alignment, whether capitalist ,ommunist, and (in this case) ultra nationalist can have socialist values. I don’t think any country in WW2 managed to participate without socialism. At least not any that managed to fight long enough.

    Participation of tribalism here gets Facebook levels of cringe at times.

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        7 months ago

        They aren’t your opponents. They’re just unruly. They’re fighting for your rights just as much as their own.

        I don’t mind the bearz. We have different temperaments, but I believe they strive for justice.

        And a book recommendation fits here: Reading an excellent one about the six months leading up to Hitler’s chancellorship called Takeover. Check it out!

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          7 months ago

          They absolutely have picked plenty of fights with me. They’re not fighting for rights, most of them want to be sexually dominated by dictator Xi Jinping.

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      7 months ago

      So, almost every socialism so far? Putin is literally waging unjustified war while Hexbear cheers them on, thus the joke that they’ll align themselves with anything.

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    7 months ago

    To be honest, USSR, for which tankies simp so much, purged the Jews, the Poles, the Armenians, the Uzbeks and pretty much anyone who wasn’t either Georgian or Russian from their government. So in a weird way, communists were fascist too.