Video filmed by a CNN stringer shows a coastal road filled with Palestinians heading north for the first time in such numbers. The IDF says such journeys are not permitted.

Thousands of Palestinians, including men, women, children and elderly, attempted to return to their homes in northern Gaza on Sunday when they came under Israeli fire.

“We reached all the way to the checkpoint until we saw Israeli tanks. We headed back because they fired towards us. We didn’t see anyone make it to the other side. We risked our children’s lives to cross, but apparently it was all a lie,” one woman said.

Video shows several people with what appear to be gunshot wounds. One man is seen carrying another man who has blood streaming along his face from a head injury.

  • jo3jo3@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1217·
    7 months ago

    No they aren’t. That’s complete nonsense. Do put this on us, if they’d give us someone worth voting for, we would.

    • Gutless2615@ttrpg.networkEnglish
      186·
      7 months ago

      Inaction is action. You can’t not make a choice, and there will be consequences of whatever choice you make.

      • jo3jo3@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1012·
        7 months ago

        I absolutely can, that is my choice. It’s my vote, it’s my choice to use it or not use it. Simple as that. If I bothered to vote, I would write in Bernie every single time.

        The consequences are not my fault. Give me someone worth voting for and I’ll do it. I’ll even volunteer for them, because I have before, and I would again for someone that isn’t a pile of trash or a pile of shit. I won’t vote for either of those things, and that is my vote.

        • nickwitha_k (he/him)@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
          82·
          7 months ago

          The consequences of your actions may not be your fault but you are responsible for your choices and how they impact others. If you choose to take an action, knowing that it will likely increase the harm towards others, that is on you and others are free to judge you for it.

          Anti-electoralism is accelerationism with a fresh paint of coat and voting for a third party in FPTP is functionally indistinguishable from supporting the conservative party. If you help Trump get elected, you are complicit in and share responsibility for every LGBTQ and POC person harmed or killed.

          • jo3jo3@lemmy.worldEnglish
            41·
            7 months ago

            Don’t point the finger at me, I didn’t have anything to do with how we got to now. My apathy and others like me are not the problem… Take aim at the ones that are really to blame. I vote with my conscience, and if that means no vote, so be it. None of you will convince me otherwise with your attacks.

            • jumjummy@lemmy.worldEnglish
              1·
              7 months ago

              Then you are naive. You can say you’re not to blame, but if Trump wins and things get worse (and oh boy will they get worse), Trump voters and those who didn’t vote for Biden will be to blame. Full stop.

              Does it suck we don’t have a more progressive candidate in the general? Absolutely. Is there anything that can be done at this point to change that? No, there are only 3 choices to make, and all but voting for Biden will help Trump in some way.

        • Gutless2615@ttrpg.networkEnglish
          31·
          7 months ago

          The consequences of voting or not voting for you are exactly the same as they are for every other voting age American. It’s really not that complicated.

          • jo3jo3@lemmy.worldEnglish
            31·
            7 months ago

            You’re right, it’s not complicated, there are zero consequences to my not voting. My state will go to Biden with or without me, I make zero difference.

            People shouldn’t be annoyed and angry with me that I don’t want to participate anymore, don’t point the finger at me, point it at the ones who are making people like me completely apathetic to this dumb shit show.

            • jumjummy@lemmy.worldEnglish
              1·
              7 months ago

              Problem is that this mindset for states that DO matter in our shitty electoral college system absolutely make a difference. This is absolutely the goal of the Russians, GOP, and the “let America burn to the ground” folks.

    • TrickDacy@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2112·
      7 months ago

      Right it won’t be your fault if you can see a worse alternative coming but instead of avoiding it you throw a tantrum. Totally not your fault.

      • jo3jo3@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1616·
        7 months ago

        Not voting isn’t throwing a tantrum. I choose to not vote because I have nobody I think is worth voting for. That’s all.

        But to be honest, the amount of attacks you get if you say you don’t want to vote, or you plan to vote third party, the negativity against that you get from people, like this is all your fault, is what seems like people throwing a tantrum. My vote my choice. That’s all. My one vote in my state makes no difference whatsoever. So I’m just not going to do it.