• Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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    6 months ago

    And the Wars of the Roses (amongst other things) set the stage for WW1. That’s just cause and effect, not some sort of profundity.

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        6 months ago

        Okay, but that’s all of history. One thing leads to another. The problem is, you can’t say what would have happened if things went differently.

        Would there have been no Nazi party if World War I never happened? Was Hitler’s rise to power in part due to his experiences in World War I and the economic crisis Germany was put in due, in part, to World War I? We have no way of knowing.

        Maybe if Victoria and Albert hadn’t married, World War I would still have happened, but been even worse because there would have been even greater enmity between the British and the Germans. We can’t know. The best we can do is write speculative fiction.

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          6 months ago

          Good thing I wasn’t grabbing all of history in my statement then, just 2 plot points.

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            6 months ago

            Did you not read past the first paragraph? Everything else I wrote was about WWI and WWII. I literally talked about Hitler.

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                6 months ago

                Okay, then why did you say:

                Good thing I wasn’t grabbing all of history in my statement then, just 2 plot points.

                When I was literally discussing those two plot points?

                I’ll paste what I said again. Maybe you’ll have a legitimate response to it?

                Would there have been no Nazi party if World War I never happened? Was Hitler’s rise to power in part due to his experiences in World War I and the economic crisis Germany was put in due, in part, to World War I? We have no way of knowing.

                Maybe if Victoria and Albert hadn’t married, World War I would still have happened, but been even worse because there would have been even greater enmity between the British and the Germans. We can’t know. The best we can do is write speculative fiction.

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                  6 months ago

                  Because you said that’s “all of history”, it’s not like I’m trying to link Christopher Columbus to 9/11 here. I even stated the dude mixed the wars up in another comment thread.