Resistance by Palestine is valid in any form given it’s position. Whatever worthless criticism you may have of the means of Palestinian resistance should be blamed on the Israeli regime for forcing them to this point.
The oppressed do not have the luxury of precise and swift strikes against their oppressors. We do not get to judge the systematically and brutally disadvantaged Palestine and it’s resistance not being able to capture the core government out from behind one of the most advanced militaries on the planet (backed by one of the others).
All resistance on their part is justified. And insofar as any of those deaths may have been regrettable, they should be held against the settler-colonial regime for forcing this situation into existence.
Israel’s violence against Palestine is enormously unequal, disgustingly normalized, and systematically devastating. This has been going on for decades. To sit there and finger wag them fighting back is arrogant and frankly further enabling the situation. “Oh you deserve liberation and justice but only if you do it the right and proper way!” As if they can face such an overwhelmingly unfair fight as equals.
Palestinian violence is but a reflection of Israeli violence and all fault and consequences from it lay unequivocally at the feet of Israel.
Resistance by Palestine is valid in any form given it’s position.
In any form? So if some Palestinian person went through a maternity ward stomping on babies’ heads as a form of resistance, you’d be okay with that? Really?
That would hardly be different than genocidal war crimes done to Palestinians by the IDF.
Palestinians would almost certainly never make it to the hospital before being gunned down, whereas Israel can march in an army to perpetuate such atrocities with relative ease.
But sure, if such a thing happened you’d not find me condemning it. Israeli colonialism and genocide would be to blame for it. If Israeli violence stopped, so too would Palestinian violence. Israel has the power here unfortunately.
You do realize that, based on what you’ve said so far, you’re also saying that an acceptable resistance to genocide is genocide. I hope you realize that anyway.
That’s absolutely absurd. If Palestine was capable of inflicting genocide upon its oppressors, they’d not be in this situation to begin with. Can we talk about reality here?
But it doesn’t. If they started a genocide against Israel, they’d no longer be the oppressed but the oppressors. And therefore they’d have no “resistance” to justify such a thing.
In any case Palestine doing a 180⁰ and becoming the genociders is a ridiculous line of thought with no purpose.
Killing every Israeli to stop genocide is not resisting the genocide?
Sounds like resistance to me.
And this is what you said:
Resistance by Palestine is valid in any form given it’s position.
It’s not my fault that you made an absolutist statement. It’s yours. In any form includes genocide.
(Also, killing every baby in a maternity ward, whether you stomp them to death or not, is also a genocidal act. You already said you wouldn’t condemn that.)
We’ve reached an impasse in which you seem to be solely interested in arguing about semantics regarding hypotheticals with no basis in reality whatsoever. This conversation is going nowhere and has no point.
Bro, with that attitude “everything is justified against Israel”, it’s guaranteed that the conflict will still exist in 100 years. That’s the right attitude to get as many people as possible killed there.
Let me just redirect your whole comment back to:
The oppressed do not have the luxury of precise and swift strikes against their oppressors. We do not get to judge the systematically and brutally disadvantaged Palestine and it’s resistance not being able to capture the core government out from behind one of the most advanced militaries on the planet (backed by one of the others).
All resistance on their part is justified. And insofar as any of those deaths may have been regrettable, they should be held against the settler-colonial regime for forcing this situation into existence.
Israel’s violence against Palestine is enormously unequal, disgustingly normalized, and systematically devastating. This has been going on for decades. To sit there and finger wag them fighting back is arrogant and frankly further enabling the situation. “Oh you deserve liberation and justice but only if you do it the right and proper way!” As if they can face such an overwhelmingly unfair fight as equals.
Palestinian violence is but a reflection of Israeli violence and all fault and consequences from it lay unequivocally at the feet of Israel.
In any form? So if some Palestinian person went through a maternity ward stomping on babies’ heads as a form of resistance, you’d be okay with that? Really?
That would hardly be different than genocidal war crimes done to Palestinians by the IDF.
Palestinians would almost certainly never make it to the hospital before being gunned down, whereas Israel can march in an army to perpetuate such atrocities with relative ease.
But sure, if such a thing happened you’d not find me condemning it. Israeli colonialism and genocide would be to blame for it. If Israeli violence stopped, so too would Palestinian violence. Israel has the power here unfortunately.
You do realize that, based on what you’ve said so far, you’re also saying that an acceptable resistance to genocide is genocide. I hope you realize that anyway.
That’s absolutely absurd. If Palestine was capable of inflicting genocide upon its oppressors, they’d not be in this situation to begin with. Can we talk about reality here?
I can’t help where your logic leads.
But it doesn’t. If they started a genocide against Israel, they’d no longer be the oppressed but the oppressors. And therefore they’d have no “resistance” to justify such a thing.
In any case Palestine doing a 180⁰ and becoming the genociders is a ridiculous line of thought with no purpose.
Killing every Israeli to stop genocide is not resisting the genocide?
Sounds like resistance to me.
And this is what you said:
It’s not my fault that you made an absolutist statement. It’s yours. In any form includes genocide.
(Also, killing every baby in a maternity ward, whether you stomp them to death or not, is also a genocidal act. You already said you wouldn’t condemn that.)
We’ve reached an impasse in which you seem to be solely interested in arguing about semantics regarding hypotheticals with no basis in reality whatsoever. This conversation is going nowhere and has no point.
Bro, with that attitude “everything is justified against Israel”, it’s guaranteed that the conflict will still exist in 100 years. That’s the right attitude to get as many people as possible killed there.