• Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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    11 days ago

    It wasn’t an armed conflict until they began it on October 7th.

    Whether or not Israel drove them to do it is another issue. I believe that’s what happened. But it doesn’t change the fact that I would not consider conscripts fair game in that situation because the situation itself is not a fair one.

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      11 days ago

      An armed siege and occupation are armed conflicts.

      Just because there wasn’t active fighting at a time does not change the fact that at least one side established its position by force. To take the example of Crimea. Just because Russia moved in to occupy it quickly and there was little fighting, it is still an armed conflict. If Russia wouldn’t roam Crimea with its army, it wouldn’t hold control of it. The same is true for the siege of Gaza that Israel upheld before reinvading it.

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      11 days ago

      Of course there was armed conflict or do you think the apartheid and blockade of Gaza was enforced with bubblegum and rainbows?

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          11 days ago

          You said,

          It wasn’t an armed conflict until they began it on October 7th.

          I disagreed with that assessment. What’s so hard for you to understand?

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            There was no fighting going on at the time. It was not an armed conflict at the time. Just because they had an armed conflict at times before that doesn’t mean that was what was happening at that time.

            India and Pakistan have gone to war multiple times. That doesn’t mean they’re always at war.

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              What an absurd comparison. Palestinians in Gaza were under an ongoing military siege by Israel. That looks absolutely nothing like a border between two independent sovereign states. It’s laughable that you would think otherwise.

              Edit: Just so you understand how utterly wrong you are, here’s an article about Israel bombing Gaza just weeks before October 7th.

              https://www.npr.org/2023/09/24/1201381201/an-israeli-military-raid-has-killed-two-palestinians-in-the-west-bank

              Articles like this one are just a search away. Maybe take five seconds and do that before making wildly inaccurate claims next time.

              • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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                11 days ago

                Gaza is not an independent sovereign state? I think the residents there might dispute that.

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                  11 days ago

                  What a pedantic and useless argument. Palestinians want a sovereign state. The international community recognizes that they have a right to one. However, Israel violates that right every day therefore deny Palestinians a truly sovereign state.

                  Honestly, stop pretending you know anything about the plight of the Palestinian people. You showed your ignorance by claiming there was not violent conflict immediately prior to October 7th.

      • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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        That is a fact. There was no fighting going on at the time. It was not an armed conflict at the time. Just because they had an armed conflict at times before that doesn’t mean that was what was happening at that time.

        India and Pakistan have gone to war multiple times. That doesn’t mean they’re always at war.

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        11 days ago

        Sorry, I replied to you again without realizing you were the person who tried to lie about me being an Israel supporter. My mistake. I won’t reply again after this.