• Rikudou_Sage@lemmings.world
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    1 year ago

    Ok, I’ll give you a choice!

    1. Eat this food that’s made in a way that causes a lot of environmental problems
    2. Eat this food that’s made by the same company, except it claims it’s vegan, hides the fact it’s the same company by using 10 middle-men, but has great marketing
    3. Eat this actually environmentally friendly food. Wait, scratch that, you’re too poor to actually eat this regularly
    4. Starve to death

    What great choices you have!

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      1 year ago

      Most vegan and plant based foods are MUCH less expensive unless you are only eating pre-prepared foods. A bag of rice and a bag of beans and some veggies are not expensive at all.

      You seem to not have any of the facts.

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        1 year ago

        what your suggesting takes time and equipment (and some experience with seasoning). the time alone can make it cost-prohibitive.

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              1 year ago

              If they can afford ground beef at $4/lb why can’t they afford things that are much cheaper?

              • Rikudou_Sage@lemmings.world
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                1 year ago

                Many of the poorer people can’t really afford beef regularly, it’s more of a once-a-year-treat. Source: Used to be very poor when I was a kid.

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                1 year ago

                money isn’t the only cost, there is also the matter of time. no amount of money saving would add more time to my day.

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        1 year ago

        You’re being a bit too selective here. Let’s be honest, there’s a lot more to making good tasting vegan meals than just rice and beans. In general I’ve found that eating vegan is more expensive than the equivalent alternative.

        If you want more people to eat vegan meals they also have to taste good, and you want to mix up your meals so you’re not eating the same thing every day.

        For burger equivalents any vegan meat alternative is more expensive than a regular burger (I’m really hoping that cultured meat can help turn this around).

        For meat alternatives seitan tastes awesome, but it’s way more expensive than most meat itself.

        Tofu tastes great when you know how to prepare it well, and that’s going to be closer to alternative meat prices.

        Egg alternatives are more expensive than eggs.

        For dairy alternatives, milk alternatives are more expensive than milk itself.

        Vegan butter is more expensive than regular butter. Vegan cheese is way more expensive than regular cheese (especially if you want it to actually taste good). Vegan yogurt is more expensive than regular yogurt. Vegan mayonnaise is way more expensive than regular mayo. Vegan ice cream is way more expensive than regular ice cream.

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          1 year ago

          It’s almost as if your problem is that you are eating the preprepared foods that are expensive. There are tons of dishes that aren’t expensive to make.

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            1 year ago

            The only thing in that list that would qualify as pre-prepared food would be the ice cream.

            I make my own dishes with what I listed out and the vegan alternative is almost always more expensive in comparison.

            Edit: The yogurt could technically be considered pre-prepared when I eat that on its own, but I also use it to help make sauces that go with the meals.