• Chariotwheel@kbin.social
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      Not if all the capitalists get their shit together and see that short term profits aren’t worth the mid term extinction of humanity.

      Which should happen any moment.

      Aaaaaaaany moment.

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        Oh, people have long since realized that they have to do something about it.

        The problem is they’ve realized that it’s far cheaper to prepare for their own survival than fix the fuck ups of the world.

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          Self-preserver capitalists are more along the hoarding supplies and creating fortified bases variety. Even Steve Huffman got his laser eye surgery for prepper reasons, according to him. No idea how much that was just a cover story for the pure vanity.

          But the amount of preppers in the tech world are increasing, and they’re not looking at ways of keeping anyone else safe but themselves and their families.

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            They would rather live underground in a bunker in luxury, then share just a litte percentage of their wealth that would benefit more people than themselves.

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              Most of them aren’t billionaires though. They just own a little land and can afford to build on it, which is high-salary rich but nothing like billionaire rich. They might have a couple of years of comparative comfort at best. The billionaires are on a different level of entirely.

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            Unless lasik has significantly changed, last I looked it lasts ~10 years and you can only do it twice, so it doesn’t really make sense to do it from prepper reasons unless you think collapse is within 6 months. Otherwise, get the timing wrong and you could need another round of lasik just after the beginning of the appocolypes or worse you could need a new round but have already done two right before everything collapses.

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              Unless lasik has significantly changed, last I looked it lasts ~10 years and you can only do it twice

              Iirc how long it lasts depends on the person. And most people take two at most as its usually good after the second correction, for those who actually need the second (not all people need it)

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          They’d rather self-preserve themselves to Mars than do anything that could self-preserve all humanity

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            Even at +4c there will still be plenty of “nice” places for billionaires to fuck off to and build a nice little rich people commune. Hell, a +6c world is still the garden of eden in comparison to Mars.

            Yes there’s a lot of interest in Mars right now, but it’s really is just mega rich nerds. Hell, if I was mega rich, I’d make an aerospace company too, space is cool.

            The rich peppers are buying up land and building compounds in climate safe havens, like New Zealand.

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              Musk said something about how terraforming Mars to be habitable shouldn’t be difficult, and I was thinking “well then getting CO2 from 400+ ppm to 300 ppm should be a cake walk for you! Why haven’t you done that yet!”

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                I believe, and I’d have to go find the quote, but he meant/said simple. Simple =/= easy, just that there are a few things you can do that have a huge impact. Like you could bombard the polar caps and release a shit ton of Co2 and water which would thicken the atmosphere, trap some heat, and start a rain cycle. That’s conceptually simple but practically hard. To keep on with Musk, he’s also been quoted multiple times saying that living on Mars is gonna suck for a long long time.

                I guess in the same way climate change is conceptually simple but practically hard. Cutting out 90% of Co2 emissions pulling existing Co2 out is simple, most of the tech is already developed, it just would cost hugely insane amounts of money to do it quickly. We have direct air capture, we could build dedicated nuclear power air capture plants above existing limestone/granite deposits and pump them full. It just would cost $$$$/kg.

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              Humans on Mars seems to be a pure fantasy fueld by old SF. Technically it seems to be easier (and more viable) to build floating cities on Venus than for humans to live (on the surface of) Mars

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          Self preservation is a good motivator, self sacrifice on the behalf of others isn’t unfortunately.