I legitimately can’t imagine how awful it must be to be trans in Russia. Well, pretty much anywhere really, now that I think of it. Trans people just can’t catch a break. I feel so bad for them.
You and me both, fam. I can’t even imagine how it must be for a trans person to live in the US south - it is just mind-baffling to think of what it must be in other countries that barely even recognize any of those rights or are even outright hostile to the identity.
I can’t speak for every trans person in the South, but for me, it’s pretty fucking awful.
Part of it is my area(lot of old white conservatives). They really don’t give a fuck. I have had to listen to 10 minute rants about gender politics because they want a pink gender reveal cake.
We did multiple cake variations for Valentine’s. All stick figures. We “dared” to put rainbows on a couple of them. We had to get rid of them because people complained about STICK FIGURES under rainbows.
I have to make sure I’m in a safe place to even begin feeling like myself.
Here in Ontario is pretty good for me as a trans person, well at least in terms of my being trans. I feel fortunate.
I’m glad you feel comfortable in Ontario. I hope we can keep it that way here.
I have no idea what it’s like to have gender dysphoria, but I’d imagine they’d just not come out. But idk how that works, or if they’re willing to get bullied by like every Russian ever.
It can affect everyone differently but not coming out and getting things done can lead to terrible mental health and depression, leading to suicide. Transitionning is the only way we know to supress those symptoms.
That isn’t entirely true. Transitioning is very recent idea. Being trans and transitioning is also intimately tied to pharma capital complex.
There were many ways of being queer and trans which have been erased over time. Simply consider the native American stuff and also Indian motions of hijra.
Though not this precise point a good text to read : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Testo_Junkie
Probably because those people didn’t have a choice due to the limitations of medicine.
Same as how treatment for depression was “suck it up or abuse drugs/alcohol” and the treatment for serious trauma was “die”.
Again depression is a modern conception which is a symptom of a society that has erased notions such as melancholia and mourning.
Reference: https://books.google.co.in/books/about/The_New_Black.html?id=8nL823M9X64C&redir_esc=y
The point is that these new ideas pretend that they are all neutral and they have arrived at the truth. In the process the constitue their own subjects who are interpellated in these frames. The people who believe and fall for this new discourses are produced by these new technological and scientific advances. It isn’t a truth waiting to be grasped out there.
The point is that alternative routes of making meaning of these phenonemon have been erased and other alternative pathways are blocked by suggesting that this is it.
Hey, germs are a modern conception, too, so I guess it would be fine with you if surgeons stopped washing their hands.
There is no analogical reasoning between germ theory and psychiatry. Psychiatry chooses to individualize a problem in however coded manners at the expense of the social. I am honestly quite astounded by the response that transitioning is the only way to be trans nowadays. This echoes the overall codification of queer behaviour the world over where the normative western queer body language now dominated. If you don’t behave or are like them you are not queer.
Alienated not only from the products of our labour, but increasingly the original tool of our labour; that is, our bodies. That’s the likely cause of the ideological cart overtaking the materialist horse when it comes to gender. At least, in my opinion.
You put it well. Thank you for that clarification.
How about we decide to do the sensible thing and take advantage of modern medicine??
Yes. Not against modern medicine. While you are at it please also look into the pharma complex which oversells modern medicine.
For the record, I tried not coming out for about 25 years and it wrecked my mental health and increased my depression. :(
True, but there are definitely places where it’s much better to be trans than others, and Russia’s near the bottom of the pack.
Russia is a tough place to be human
Unless you are a white straight russian man
I’m sure all the teenagers getting drafted to die in Ukraine agree!
It’s also tough being a Slavic Russian, but still worse to be of any other ethnic group in Russia I think.
Not really, there are no laws prohibiting any ethnicity to work in the government. Ethnic language and culture is allowed and supported in these ethnic regions.
Oh cool, so there’s no racism in Russia, then? /s
most of russian people doesn’t support lgbt whatsoever
and it’s prohibited by law to promote lgbt
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Unfortunately they’re right though. The majority of the population is.
The fact that it’s prohibited by law certainly contributes to that though, and actively preventing any attempt to change it is politically popular.
So this is next step for american republicans?
Technically yes. Previous laws were also drafted with the help of some republican-adjacent organizations, not to mention that CitizenGo, the dhristofascist org that pushed the Ugandan gay genocide law, is being bankrolled by both Russian and US far-right adjacent oligarchs. Any free country that does not consider CitizenGo a threat to safety, liberty, and secularism, are committing suicide.
The global RW fascist insurgency are tied at the hip with moscovia
You mean the previous step? It seems to be what they’re working on now
Have they actually got something in the pipeline.
Tough fucking luck. If healthcare is private in the US, it’s none of their business, the state doesn’t get a say.
Just like they have no say over abortion, right? They won’t be held back by principles.
“Hi! I’m the news! Today, the Russian government did a bad thing!”
—Every day, it seems
This comment isn’t meant to trivialize the action, it’s just becoming almost comical how much the Kremlin is taking a dump on human rights.
The funny thing is, it’s the BBC reporting. That institution beholden to a party that is committed to making the issue a volatile political football.
Call it what it actually is: genocide
That’s not what that is.
Well it really depends on what definition of genocide you use. If genocide for you is the systematic killing of a certain group then perhaps not. However I don’t find that definition that particularly useful bc it just points to the end result of these discriminatory laws. If you use the border definition “Genocide is an internationally recognized crime where acts are committed with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group.” It better highlights the complexity of genocide and how it comes to be.
I got that definition from here and it even has a list of specific actions that count as genocide.
I certainly agree that genocide doesn’t have to be restricted to killing. China is genociding every non Han group by enforcing mandarin and banning local schooling. But LGBT people can be any race, religion, nationality, ethnicity, culture. It is not a genocide. It’s horrible and backwards, but not genocide.
I find excluding LGBTQ people from a group of people which can be genocided awfully strange. Like sure unlike those groups LGBTQ people will always pop up so to speak so you can’t eradicate us like you could with cluture or ethnicity but does it actually matter when talking about genocide? What matters is the harm and the degree of harm done on to the group not which type of group it is.
While I am utterly against laws like this, “genocide” is too much.
What you are doing is just wiping of history of genocide done by different countries (mostly western), by using word for something that is much less than systematically killing millions and even hundreds of millions, just take this as an example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_of_indigenous_peoples and than decide which word you will use.
Pointing out the genocide of trans people doesn’t erase the history of other genocides…
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This reminds me how during the later stages of WW2, while the Nazis were losing the war, they kept spending resources on the Holocaust.
The scary thing is that it actually wasn’t a lot of resources. Most genocides in history have happened in places that aren’t industrialized. In those cases, yeah it did take a significant amount of resources and involves a lot of people.
For an an industrialized country, genocide on the scale the Nazis did is actually a tiny percentage of the resources available. Think about how many people you can put in just one train. Even if that train runs just a few times a day, well… there’s some extremely dark mathematics about it.
The politics of hate is so incredibly dangerous in an industrialized country. Industrialized genocide can kill millions without impacting other priorities.
Scary to think about.
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It’s not. It’s a completely historical comparison. Delusional is pretending like the very clear repeat of history isn’t happening because the idea of modern Nazis makes you uncomfortable.
"Adolf Hitler was named chancellor on January 30, 1933, and enacted policies to rid Germany of Lebensunwertes Leben, or “lives unworthy of living.” What began as a sterilization program ultimately led to the extermination of millions of Jews, Roma, Soviet and Polish citizens—and homosexuals and transgender people.
When the Nazis came for the [Institute for Sexual Research] on May 6, 1933, Hirschfeld was out of the country. Giese fled with what little he could. Troops swarmed the building, carrying off a bronze bust of Hirschfeld and all his precious books, which they piled in the street. Soon a towerlike bonfire engulfed more than 20,000 books, some of them rare copies that had helped provide a historiography for nonconforming people.
The carnage flickered over German newsreels. It was among the first and largest of the Nazi book burnings. Nazi youth, students and soldiers participated in the destruction, while voiceovers of the footage declared that the German state had committed “the intellectual garbage of the past” to the flames. The collection was irreplaceable."
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-forgotten-history-of-the-worlds-first-trans-clinic/
They literally said that letting trans people transition and get gender reassignment surgery will “destroy our nation”. Its literally fascist rhetoric. They’re banning changing your gender on documents, something only 3000 people have done since 2016. The country has 143 million people.
This is genocidal rhetoric. This is a transparent attempt to promote conspiracies against trans people intending for average people to think “trans people are going to destroy my society” and “trans people are a threat to families and children”. It’s literal fascist genocidal rhetoric.
And tankies feel comfortable with that way of thinking. BuT nO, uKrOnAzIs.
Why are the so many people on this site white washing Nazis? It seems so concetrated here.
I’m very curious about what it is that you think the word “whitewash” means.
I googled it after reading your comment cause I realized I didn’t actually know what it meant.
There were a few definitions but I’m guessing this is the one the person you’re replying to meant:
“deliberately attempt to conceal unpleasant or incriminating facts about (someone or something).”
Idk why they thought someone calling out Nazis for spending resources on the Holocaust up until the very end meant that people are whitewashing Nazis though.
Sorry, what? Are you saying that this comment about the holocaust makes the Nazis look… better?
More like equating the holocaust to bad medical care is trying to make the holocaust look better. Im exergeratting of course, but im hate when people call everything nazi.
I didn’t “equate” anything. I said that one thing reminds me of another.
Can we add a rule where all articles should be archive articles to avoid incidentally paying a shitty company ad revenue. In this case an organisation that houses and protects child predators.
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Sup, you might want to raise that within feedback channels within your instance. Threads like this one are seen by many instances so there’s going to be disagreement in the votes. It’s a perfectly fair thing to do though, years ago we banned direct links to the BBC in the UK left’s largest subreddit /r/greenandpleasant (i mod) for its transphobia.
God I miss greenandpleasant; it’s really the only thing I miss from Reddit. :(
Here was being considered as a potential lifeboat although getting people to migrate would be slow and any new community would be small, but the soft on meta position of the instance made a mess of internal thoughts on what to do.
Sad that so many people live under such an oppressive government. Some people have started hating Russians but I feel bad for most of them.
They’re a huge country with all kinds of resources. If the government supported the people instead of keeping them under their heel, Russia could be an advanced, wealthy country with a rich culture. Instead we got Mafia in the Kremlin.
don’t make the mistake to think this is a government only problem. Sure not all Russians are pro-war or pro-putin but a majority of them supports their leader, his efforts and this mindset, they are basically fine with all that crap.
So again to blame all russians is wrong but this is also not only putins fault, a lot of russian people are also heavy involved in this kind of lifestyle.
Well it’s hard to blame the people when information and propaganda are controlling their lives in such a specific way.
Manufactured consent is a very real thing
I never understood why people can see it locally, but can not understand when applied to Russia and China.
Do they know they’re being subject to propaganda?
Do Americans and Europeans?