• umbrella@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    so that means they dont need to murder innocents anymore right??

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      1 year ago

      Wrong. They want to eliminate the very last Hamas fighter while totally ignoring the Hydra effect.

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    1 year ago

    To all the commentators that obviously know better how to act in a war:

    How should Israel act to defend its citizens from the ongoing attacks? How should Israel act, so that Hamas will never be able to harm civilians again?

    And don’t tell us what you DON‘T want, tell us what you DO want.

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      1 year ago

      This is the fallacy that America had with black gangs. They think gangs are the problem and the problem needs to be removed.

      The reality is that gangs are a solution to problems, such as wealth inequality, racism, violence.

      The solution to Hamas is to remove the conditions that made them necessary, which are apartheid, violence, forcible eviction, wealth inequality.

      However, Israel’s goals are the ethnic cleansing of the area, so this will never work for them. Talks of peace a tool of distraction. If this is not true, then they will return to the 1948 borders, which would make a viable Palestinian and Israeli state. But they’ll, make bullshit excuses of why that’s not possible.

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        1 year ago

        This is the fallacy that America had with black gangs. They think gangs are the problem and the problem needs to be removed.

        The reality is that gangs are a solution to problems, such as wealth inequality, racism, violence.

        The solution to Hamas is to remove the conditions that made them necessary, which are apartheid, violence, forcible eviction, wealth inequality.

        So you are saying the Islamic State / IS / Daesh was also the product of „conditions that made them necessary“?

        However, Israel’s goals are the ethnic cleansing of the area, so this will never work for them. Talks of peace a tool of distraction. If this is not true, then they will return to the 1948 borders, which would make a viable Palestinian and Israeli state. But they’ll, make bullshit excuses of why that’s not possible.

        Do you know that the Palestinian authorities have denied EVERY attempt of a two state solution since 1948? Why would „they“ now accept borders, they have categorically denied before?

    • Dkarma@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      They should have thought about this when they literally picked this place for their state and other people had already claimed that land fairly.

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        1 year ago

        Israel got this land assigned from Great Britain after the 2nd world war who at the time had the right to it after the Ottoman Empire was destroyed.

        Also Jewish people were living there for thousands of years before.they were kicked out illegitimately.

        Who has the “right” to this country depends how far you go back and that argument is not helping at all in the current conflict.

        Or would you say that American people should just 'endure the rockets" if the ancestors from native americans started bombing New York?

        Even if what happened at the time was unjust it doesn’t give the other party a free reign to do whatever they want

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          1 year ago

          Got assigned this land.??? People were living there already. England just kicked them out. That’s somehow ok with you.