• beardown@lemm.ee
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    10 months ago

    Yes? Especially if the territory of that state is forcibly taken away from others who are living on it

    Creating the United States was similarly terrible as it involved the genocide and ethnic cleansing of Native Americans. Same with Australia. Same with South Africa. Same with Rhodesia.

    Forcibly taking someone’s home and cleansing an area of an ethnicity is certainly regarded as one of the worst actions a group of people can do. And rightly so

    • theotherverion@lemmynsfw.com
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      10 months ago

      Of course, the way Israel was created was not ideal. I do not agree that Israel should have forced people out.

      Just like many Arab countries should not have forced Jews out.

      But unfortunately, it’s not very feasible to return it to the previous state now…

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        10 months ago

        A lot of countries have a right of return. It works just fine. They may not be able to get the family farm back, but we can’t win everything.

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              10 months ago

              So far the international court has not decided on the genocide case, so it’s incorrect to accuse them of genocide now.

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                10 months ago

                South Africa has accused them of genocide. You’re saying South Africa, a former apartheid regime that has since been liberated, is incorrect to do so? What gives you the authority to judge them so? Obviously it isn’t because you’ve read their filings with the International Court of Justice

                • theotherverion@lemmynsfw.com
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                  10 months ago

                  Exactly, nothing gives me the authority to judge it. Same applies to you. As long as final decision is not made, we cannot accuse them of genocide.

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                10 months ago

                The UN definition is public knowledge. It’s not like it’s a secret we have to wait for the clerics to decipher. What they’re doing meets the definition.

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                  10 months ago

                  Not necessarily, proving the intention is the key to genocide accusations and it’s quite tough to prove.

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                    10 months ago

                    Because half the ministry and the PM saying they need to clear it out and settle it isn’t proof of intent?