I don’t mean that the joke just isn’t funny, I want to know a joke that almost makes you want to fast-forward through the scene.
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How rude they are to Jerry in Parks & Rec. Doing a rewatch of it now and wow it is way worse than I remembered, and starts way earlier. It’s not a flanderisation thing, there was a season 2 joke that made me have to pause and go online just to see how many other people felt the same way as me.
Agreed. The only redeeming thing I can give the writers credit for is that they gave him an amazing family life. Even though he is the office punching bag, he is much more fulfilled outside of work than any other character is. That, and he also does love his job.
I find it funny because of the sheer absurdity of it. There’s absolutely no reason to dislike Jerry. He affable and unassuming, a good family man and just generally a good guy. Yet everyone inexplicably hates him, even Chris. It’s makes absolutely no sense and that disconnect is what makes it funny to me.
If they hated him for a reason it would be mean spirited. Instead, it’s just over the top silly and fits in with the humor of the show.
The bit where Leslie throws his painting in the lake is one of my favorite moments. It’s just so exorbitantly stupid that it makes me laugh.
It’s the opposite of the Lil’ Sebastian thing, where there’s that horse that everyone idolizes for no discernible reason. Although with that, there’s the one character who doesn’t understand why they do that, so maybe that’s what the Jerry thing needed? Or perhaps that would have made it even sadder lol.
It feels cringe (to me) cause these type of people are often bullied in real life work places, again with no real reason.
Personally I don’t have as much of an issue with when they’re poking fun at him per se, but when they denegrate or damage things he has clearly worked hard on and put a lot of passion into, that’s crossing a line for me. It becomes incredibly mean-spirited.
There are two examples in this compilation video. One at the linked time, and another at 6:33. Especially with how happy he is to see Leslie in the second clip until she destroys his art. It’s honestly heart-breaking. The pie to the face that came a little bit before that was also hard to watch and really felt mean. Dunno if that’s because of how cold and calculated it was (vs the more usual off-the-cuff comments), or because it was a physical act rather than verbal, or something else. But I didn’t like it.
Ok, the time stamped one is pretty rough. They don’t usually play his reaction with such honesty.
Watching Parks & Rec for the first time, and I also noticed this. IMO it’s missing something, maybe if only one of the characters acted that way towards him or something it would be better. He’s pretty much Meg from Family Guy, and I never really cared for that dynamic either.
This sorta works for Tobi Flenderson in The Office tho
I think it works there because it’s just Michael Scott that despises him, everyone else sees him as fairly normal from what I recall.
Tobi really is a lonely creep tho. Sometimes Michael goes way too far, and its ironic because they’re not super different in terms of being socially awkward and loners
All sitcom dads being fat, slobbish and painfully stupid and unaware of anything to do with housework, children, or common sense but somehow they all have long-suffering yet weirdly hot wives who just roll their eyes and somehow don’t file for divorce.
The Simpsons
King of Queens
George Lopez’s show
According to Jim (Belushi)
Last man standing (Tim Allen)
Home improvement (Again Tim Allen)
Everybody loves Raymond
The entire premise of every one of these shows is HAHAHA DADS ARE IDIOTS HA HAHA
You forgot Married with Children which was one of the first
Absolutely, one of the first and best examples.
I have to admit though, I do actually love that show haha
I hate how in Disney family sitcoms as well as some cartoons, there’s always the stock dumb kid that gives the majority of the humor, and it’s humor that gets old.
And they get dumber and dumber by every season
The example I think that got me to dislike the trope was in Austin and Ally. The character Desmond was eating a muffin with the muffin wrapper on, and one of the characters mentioned you “have to remove the wrapper before eating it”, so he removes the wrapper and throws the muffin away and starts eating the wrapper because that’s how he interpreted their advice. And I’m thinking has there ever been a teenager who didn’t have some instinct on how to eat a muffin.
the terrible transphobic storyline in arrested development
Wait, which one?
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Yet somehow I still love Married with Children.
It works in that show because the entire family are losers, and they all get mocked by all the others, regularly.
True equality, lol.
I feel like the cursed inverse of this is The Orville, where they’re divorced and then drama and jokes about being divorced is half the show. It was in what I saw of season 1 anyway, it was so relentless I couldn’t stand another minute of it.
If you can stand a bit more, the show does become a lot more than what those first few episodes imply.
Seconded. Seth had to pitch the show to Fox as a sort of live-action family guy and kept it going for the first few episodes, but it quickly sheds that vibe and keeps getting better.
Pretty much every segment of Jerry’s stand up routine in Seinfeld. I have no idea how that man became a famous comedian.
I don’t find Jerry funny, like at all. I like Costanza but I adore Kramer
Jerry was a straight guy in the show, is funny because he is not funny. He’s just a normal guy with a few good observations
He’s there to anchor the show
Like Larry David is way funnier
Idk if you’ve seen the last seasons of curb but like, it does not really age well either
Yeah Jerry was such a whiney twat.
Still is
In a show about horrible people he literally just played himself.
All tv shows named after the main character are better without that character (spin-offs excluded obvs).
Seinfeld
Dawsons creek
Rosanne
Ellen
Exception that proves the rule
Columbo
I don’t think Frasier would work without Frasier
Because that shit was actually funny 35 to 40 years ago. It just didn’t age well.
Tastes change.
His stand-up was bad back then too
40 years ago in the UK it was shown at 8am as a filler program when nobody was watching, because it was so painfully contrived
No I watched it back then as a kid and though maybe you need to be 35 to like this.
Recently age 35 not my thing still.
It will be legen… wait for it… dary!
I couldn’t agree more. The idea seemed to have been “Hey, lets take a joke that was just luke warm at best to begin with, and then over use it in an attempt to wring every single spec of amusement out of it until our audience gets physically sick when they hear it”
Still a fun show though!
It is kinda brilliant though, the way they set it up.
If you don’t like the joke, you can always fall back to the meta level: this is a 40-something dad recalling how dumb and cringe-worthy he and his friends were in their 20s.
Plus Old Ted is an unreliable narrator.
Tap for spoiler
Old Ted is trying to justify to his kids why he wants to bone one of his best friends’ ex wife,
The show really should be renamed Why I Want To Sleep With My Old Crush.
Yeah it’s not really supposed to be “funny”. It’s just Barney being corny because that’s who the character is. (When he’s not being a sociopath with women.)
On arrested development I skip the story arc of episodes related to Maeby tricking people in to thinking her mom is trans so they can be awful to her.
There is a lot of casual transphobia that was common at the time, but I just can’t fucking stand those scenes.
Isn’t she just doing that to try and stop Steve Holt from being attracted to her mum instead of to her?
I don’t think she was trying to get people to be nasty to her particularly, just trying to distract Steve.
This is in a lot of shows and not just sitcoms, but I hate contrived argumentative dialogue that’s set up so that the protagonist always gets the last word with “witty” responses/comebacks. It’s like watching a “I’m the attractive Chad and you are the ugly NPC” meme in real time.
Some of the Scrubs jokes aged badly. I can’t remember any specifically, but there was some anti-gay humor and stuff like that. The show I still appreciated enough to get through a rewatch recently and still mostly enjoyed, but some of the individual jokes were hard to sit through. Wish I could remember one lol.
Same with Futurama. Kif repeatedly reacting disgusted at Zapp’s more homoerotic antics or singing a pro-trans song, do not seem to sit right when watched with a modern eye.
I never saw those moments as Kif being homophobic. I read it as a subordinate being repulsed by the idea of seeing his commanding officer naked.
Yeah I am pretty sure this is the intention of the writers. Showing yourself naked to your subordinate is not “homoerotism”, it’s harassment.
Every joke in The Amazing World of Gumball.
Whether it’s visual gags, exaggerated takes, fourth-wall gags, deconstructed gags, pop culture references, or even forced bait-and-switch gags.
The blue cat boy himself is insufferable and his family and friends and all the other characters and how they’re all written are just as unlikable to me…it’s like Family Guy mixed with South Park but marketed towards a children’s network.
Doesn’t sound like it’s an otherwise great show then. that’s not what the question asked lol
Ah, whoops.
