• vlad@lemmy.sdf.org
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      It’s only the morning where I am, but I think I’ve read the dumbest thing I’m going to read all day.

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        Next time try not sleeping through your history class champ? That’s a famous historic Churchill quote.

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          Churchill was a racist idiot and that’s still a dumb quote.

          Democracy is a plane with 20 people on it. Nine vote not to crash it and eleven vote to fly it into a mountain, and that means everyone dies because democracy

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            So instead you choose authoritarianism: 20 people on a plan and one of them shoots the pilot, takes over, and crashes it. Everyone dies.

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              Yeah, the problems with democracy are rarely solved by less democracy. It just turns into “Instead of many idiots voting to do something stupid, one idiot votes to do something stupid.”

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              Love how you think that not only are there only two options, but that democracy isn’t also authoritarian. It’s just mob rule instead of an individual.

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                That’s… precisely why the original quote said “democracy is the worst form of government”. It has fundamental flaws. But it’s still the better than everything else.

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            But if we made you running everything it would be perfect.

            That’s the thing with anti-democracy sentiment the people who advocate for it always assume they, or someone who agrees with them on everything, is going to run things. No one imagines themselves in a slave society being a slave.

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            No, nine vote to crash it, seven vote to go left and four vote to go right.

            Crashing it is! Thanks, first past the post voting system.

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            It’s more like,

            • 2 hijackers vote to crash
            • 1 votes with the hijackers because they share a hometown
            • 2 vote no
            • another 2 vote strong no
            • the other 12 don’t participate because they don’t want to get too political (we have 40% voter turnout where I live)

            and I’ve been through enough elections to see how we are all heading to a crash, every time.

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                I did not learn anything in any of my schooling lol

                FTFY

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                  Damn, you guys are pretentious as hell in this thread lmao

          • Colonel Sanders@lemmy.world
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            It’s ok. It requires a reading and comprehension level above 5th Grade so it can be difficult for some to understand subtle nuances and phrases such as “apart from” and “the”.

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    US is about to fall into a semi-fascist state next year, so it’s gonna get way worse

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      If you are referring to Trump, it’s far from a done deal.

      Though some would say that the US has been a fascist state for a while.

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    That’s not about just O, T and E etc really.

    It’s about the average Westerner just loving to blabber about realpolitik and subjective interests on the subject of enabling richer and stronger cannibals against poorer and weaker humans.

    And also about democratic countries having no immunity against foreign states buying their politicians and officials and the general population not really caring.

    Jailing for life a few people who’ve been paid by Qatar, Azerbaijan, Russia, Israel etc would do wonders as an example to the rest.

    Bombing their infrastructures when they start wars would also be nice. Most don’t have WMD. Not for the realpolitikers, of course, that would have negative strategic and economical effect, but if your goal is preserving democracy and civilization, then there are plenty of places to be bombed right now without dancing all the quadrilles.

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    This is literally said in a “new report” every year of my life. I’m totally desensitized to this.

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    Funny that Politico are the ones reporting on this… given the fact that they’re owend by Axel Springer

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    “In Hungary, Poland, Turkey, Slovakia, Israel, and the United States, just to name the most familiar examples, the erosion of democratic norms has been engineered by leaders claiming to speak in the name of, and with the authority of, the people,” the new report warned.

    IDEA’s report bases its analysis on 173 countries and takes into account 17 metrics ranging from civil liberties to judicial independence to credible elections to the rule of law, using the most recent figures from 2022.

    EU countries Hungary and Poland are still the “most notable examples illustrating the bloc’s limited ability to exert more direct influence over the (non-)democratic trajectory of its member states,” the report said.

    Poland — which is set for a change of political direction after election results earlier this month that saw the ruling right-wing Law and Justice party defeated — might now be on a more positive trajectory.

    In contrast to Hungary and Poland’s recent performance, other Central and Eastern European countries — such as Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Kosovo, Latvia, Lithuania, North Macedonia, Romania and Slovakia — are becoming the center of democratic growth in Europe due to notable five-year improvements, the report said.

    According to the report: “Ex-Chancellor Sebastian Kurz has been implicated in schemes to shut down critical media and purchase positive coverage by using public funds through the Ministry of Finance.”


    The original article contains 692 words, the summary contains 222 words. Saved 68%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

  • pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe
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    Well, of course it is. You all blatantly threw out human rights because you were afraid after 9/11 and because of covid. 🤦

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      9/11, yes, but what human rights did we lose from covid? Having to wear a mask for a while? Or being heavily encouraged to get a vaccine? …